Microsoft Security Essentials in Software

Its sits there and appears to do nothing - which in my opinion is good in that it doesn't get in the way - having said that should I feel amazed if it finds something suspicious or should I be afraid? I have ran thorough scans and quick scans - and it always finds nothing - maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I'm just a safe surfer - or maybe nobody sends me viruses - either way - truth be told AVG sits next to it and also reports nothing of interest - I know 2 packages for safety - but if you've got 4 gigs then use them!

By nicomo on 13 Oct 2009

Only one AV!

You shouldn't install two AV products on one PC, they will conflict quite badly and hit performance and produce false-positive virus alerts.

As for never finding anything, I have only had one virus in the past ten years and that was my own fault for opening an EXE I downloaded via P2P file-sharing.

By anthona on 13 Oct 2009

Typical PC Pro

"There's no firewall, no web protection, no email scanner and precious few user settings."

Yes yes well done PC Pro - another typical biased review.

You could actually point out that whilst it is missing things like a firewall, they do already supply one built into windows. A very good one in fact which does the job. Oh and they include Anti-spyware free of charge. Have you actually used any other product like McCrappie, Slymantics and other big players? If you want to kill your system, with their huge footprint, pointless graphical prettiness and rather appalling detection rates, then fine use them.

Yet again Microsoft are doing something nice - providing a free product that (if you actually check your facts) has an extremely good 'unknown malware' detetcion rates - have a look at AV Comparitives. The only negative review is their 'known' virus detection which falls behind the big players purely because the older companies have bigger definition databases.

Give them a break PC Pro, for the few million people who dont go to dodgy sites or use file sharing, it's perfect.

The AV world is about to get a very big wake up call.

By metalmonkey on 13 Oct 2009

Some valid points

Some valid points made there. Next we'll be hearing about how the EU or Congress is fining Microsoft for being anti-competitive; or force them to have an anti-virus ballot at time of installation.

Lets all do some Bill-Bashing...

By anthona on 13 Oct 2009

I was at a Microsoft event yesterday were one of the presenters (Dave Northey) was using his personal laptop with MSE installed.

During the tea break they were getting setup for their next presentation but still had the screens showing his laptop, only for MSE to pop up stating it had detected a virus!

Whether it was setup or not I don't know, but he certainly had few chuckles about it.

By a_byrne22 on 14 Oct 2009

@metalmonkey
OneCare, which I am still running, came with a firewall that improved on the one built into windows and I wish this did the same. I won't be switching until they retire it in 6 months.

By simbr on 14 Oct 2009

@simbr

The firewall included in XP was bad - hense their need to include one with onecare. But the Vista (and now Win7) firewall is perfectly adequate for most users needs so to include a firewall with MSE seems pointless. But again, I just want to point out MSE is great for people who keep the the narrow line of internet and computer use. Those who wander off, should invest in a paid-for version.

By metalmonkey on 14 Oct 2009

windows defender is very good, e.g. it not the very poor virgin isp security suite spotted i was trying to download the eicar test files. ms clearly want to protect the lazy (and therefore themselves indirectly) but not compete with those offering a premium service

By equityguru on 15 Oct 2009

Steve K.

MSE wouldn't install in Windows 7 RC1 but I'll try again when the retail W7 pack arrives. I'm using AVG in the meantime.

By SteveJKirby on 15 Oct 2009

You don't have to wait weeks for new virus definitions. It updates automatically quite frequently; I don't know how often it checks but my definitions are never more than a day old.

By gerry_mc on 15 Oct 2009

I am using atm & some inaccuracies in thei report

It installs fine on Win7 RTM & is good. It actaully does replace windows defender and updates far more often, checking every couple f hours. It's extremly lightweight on resources and as the firewall in win7 is perfectly adequate for most people especially if behind a router its a good solution.

By pcrosland on 15 Oct 2009

@metalmonkey
ah - I'm still on XP; not much experience of the Vista/W7 firewall.

By simbr on 20 Oct 2009