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Windows "won't get another major update until 2015"

Windows RT

By Shona Ghosh

Posted on 17 Oct 2013 at 16:43

Windows 8.1 might be out of the stable, but the next major OS refresh reportedly won't happen until spring 2015.

It isn't clear whether that'll be Windows 8.2 or a complete refresh to Windows 9, but the next update will see a closer integration between Windows Phone and the desktop OS, according to Microsoft watcher Mary-Jo Foley.

Microsoft officially released Windows 8 in October 2012, with Windows 8.1 following a year later. A delay to the next refresh would be at odds with Steve Ballmer's promise earlier this year to push to rapid release cycles.

But the company is in the middle of a huge reorganisation, and it's possible Microsoft will delay the next version of Windows until it decides whether to streamline its operating systems.

Under the reorganisation, Windows Phone chief Terry Myerson now oversees Microsoft's entire OS division. Myerson has hinted at ambitions to make the OS experience consistent across all Windows devices, and that Windows RT may merge with Windows Phone as the line between low-grade tablets and smartphones blurs.

The company is also set to release an update for Windows Phone 8 that should pave the way to larger Windows phones, further signalling that RT may be redundant.

It's thought Microsoft will eventually offer a unified app store for Windows Phone and Windows. According to Foley's sources, that'll arrive with the spring 2015 update to Windows.

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"Myerson has hinted at ambitions to make the OS experience consistent across all Windows devices"

Yes, because this approach was fantastically well received with W8.

By tech3475 on 17 Oct 2013

Make your mind up!

This is what has been wrong with Microsoft for years. They just keep changing their mind. Quick release cycles, wait two years. Xbox complete turnaround. Silverlight is the future, Silverlight is dead. I genuinely don't know what they're up to anymore

By TimoGunt on 17 Oct 2013

It doesn't matter

Windows is dead. Not everyone realises it yet but it is dying fast.

MS fails at everything it does.

Kin - Fail
XBox - Hardware Fail / Commercial fail.
WP 7 - Fail / abandoned
Surface RT - Iceberg Fail
Windows 8 UI - Epic Fail

They are kept alive by the office and server business but free office suites and the cloud will soon end that gravy train.

By deaglecat on 17 Oct 2013

Should Work Well

I can just picture it now, a PC tower strapped my ear, a 23" screen held out in front of my face and a mouse stuffed into a pocket. A keyboard, well hung somewhere and long trailing wire going to the power point and the.
Oh wait hang on a moment, not sure about that long wire, I need at least two of them, three if I am going to take the loudspeakers with me.
I wonder if I will even bother with the internet coming to the home network in a few years. That would certainly mean no more need to worry about OS support - and avoid the grime abortion of a spatchcock OS known as Widows 8.whatever.

By Jonesr18 on 18 Oct 2013

Oil Tanker

As they say it's difficult to get an oil tanker to change direction....give them a chance to see if they can make it work with unified code bases, it's never going to happen overnight!

I would not say xbox is a failure, and Phone 7/8 has actually increased market share quite nicely over the past year with the cheaper ranges of Nokia phones.

The problem I have with MS is that they don't sell things well to consumers. A Surface tablet with a keyboard to make it look like a laptop is always a strange sell for me. Likewise they completely failed with RT and Win8 differentiation in the market. There are huge advantages to Win8 and RT tablets which they are just not communicating (the USB port for cameras, external disks, printers etc is a gem), so they are gettig stuffed big time! But consumers are two faced with regard to Windows tablets. They want a tablet to compete with iPads etc but are not willing to let go of the legacy desktop, so effectively you want a traditional laptop and then you buy an iPad!! It's like apple users wanting to run full fat OSX software on an iPad...they don't want/need it and no Journalist says boo about it, then suddenly with a Windows RT device they all say I want to run x,y,z bloatware desktop apps on a tablet.

By AndyPC on 18 Oct 2013

Why all the hate?

@deaglecat

How is Windows dying? What in your opinion is killing it off and what would be a viable replacement?

My opinion is:
iOS with it's huge server operating system certainly ain't it, Linux whilst good for a lot of things still cannot stack up to MS in the server environment and Cloud whilst useful is not enough on it's own to kill of propriety servers. Certainly not in coming decades anyway.

Also, how on earth do you come to the conclusion that the xBox was a commercial failure? Yes it had hardware issues at the beginning but so did the PS3 with melting components. I would hardly say this is a failure in any sense.
It has been one of the most popular consoles ever produced. 76 million units sold since 2005 at for arguments sake £250 per unit. £19000000000 worth of sales is not a commercial failure. Bare in mind they cost a hell of a lot more at release too.
The only failure xBox has if you can call it that, is that PS3 has overtaken it by 1 million sales in the past year but even so the xBox has been out 8 years and the XBOne has been looming for the majority of the past year so it's inevitable that sales would wain at some point.

Your definition of a commercial failure is on a different planet to mine.

By Gazbuscus on 18 Oct 2013

Why all the hate?

@deaglecat

How is Windows dying? What in your opinion is killing it off and what would be a viable replacement?

My opinion is:
iOS with it's huge server operating system certainly ain't it, Linux whilst good for a lot of things still cannot stack up to MS in the server environment and Cloud whilst useful is not enough on it's own to kill of propriety servers. Certainly not in coming decades anyway.

Also, how on earth do you come to the conclusion that the xBox was a commercial failure? Yes it had hardware issues at the beginning but so did the PS3 with melting components. I would hardly say this is a failure in any sense.
It has been one of the most popular consoles ever produced. 76 million units sold since 2005 at for arguments sake £250 per unit. £19000000000 worth of sales is not a commercial failure. Bare in mind they cost a hell of a lot more at release too.
The only failure xBox has if you can call it that, is that PS3 has overtaken it by 1 million sales in the past year but even so the xBox has been out 8 years and the XBOne has been looming for the majority of the past year so it's inevitable that sales would wain at some point.

Your definition of a commercial failure is on a different planet to mine.

By Gazbuscus on 18 Oct 2013

The headline does say MAJOR update.

The source article by Mary Jo Foley clearly says that Windows 8.1 will be updated Spring 2014.

By stephen_d_morris on 18 Oct 2013

Why mess with the UI....

if they had just updated Win 7, and not tried to have the same OS on every device, they would have had the backing of businesses world wide, as it stands, we're fighting with our hardware suppliers to avoid Win 8 just as we did with Vista a few years back. I'm trying to eradicate my last XP systems, before next spring, but this only works as long as i can still get Win 7 Pro on my new Stone/Lenovo kit.

Win 9 better be some hot s**t is all i can say, and that would follow MS's pattern of crap OS and good OS in alternate.

By IainNIX on 18 Oct 2013

@IainNIX

On the other hand there are also people who really like the new UI in Windows 8.

I find it much better than Windows 7, I wouldn't go back on my private device and I'd love it on my work machine, but that isn't due for replacement just yet...

By big_D on 18 Oct 2013

The wrong approach

You don't need the same OS and UI for different formats. This is why people don't want windows 8.

You tailor each OS for how it is going to be used.

What people want is to be able to use their data be it a word document or a media file across all form factors.

You can have programs tailored to different form factors that use the same files.

By Ulfarus on 18 Oct 2013

People need to get a grip -

Win 8 is the best OS out there. If you don't like the "Modern Interface" don't use it - Install Classic shell and it is Windows 7 but faster, more secure with a few nice additional features. 8.1 fixes most of the stuff people were crying about. RT is what it is, made to be a tablet, not a full blown Windows laptop, how "confusing" is that for people to understand? XBox 360 is doing well with Kinect bringing something revolutionary which enabled it to compete with Playstation and Wii; albeit the original 360 had the RROD problem. Win Phone 8 is pretty slick - works well even on low end handsets compared to Android which keeps telling me that my phone is low on memory. The Apps are increasing and getting better but Apple and Android had several years head start on that.

By qwerty on 18 Oct 2013

@qwerty

What does Windows 8 offer for someone like myself who is a Windows 7 user, answer nothing.

Your own post states I have to install a third party program to get Windows 8 back to where I want it, what happens when MS break this program with an update, just like they used to do with Media Centre updates.

In addition there are several programs I use that don't play nice with Modern UI.

If people buy Windows 8 even though they don't like it, this would give MS the wrong impression. I like many others will vote with our wallets.

By Ulfarus on 19 Oct 2013

@Ulfarus

If nothing else, as I said previously, Windows 8 offers speed and security. My old laptop had Win 7 on it, I was perfectly happy with it but out of curiosity I installed 8 on it and wow what a difference in speed! It boots up in under 30 seconds, whereas Windows 7 even with a clean install took at least a minute. Everything else just feels hyper responsive and it even comes out of sleep super fast. When you actually use the desktop for a few hours, you will notice some many nice little things like faster file transfer and ability to pause them amongst other small things that are far better than 7. I wouldn't go back to 7 now and really don't understand why people are all up in arms about the start menu; It takes a minute to install the free Classic Shell to bring back the old Start menu - it even works with the 8.1 update. Seriously, people cry about the smallest things these days.

By qwerty on 20 Oct 2013

8 is just 7+

Why 7 and 8 are worse than xp and even vista.
without unofficial customisation:

1. you cant have the classic 'show desktop' icon on the taskbar
2. you cant pin folders to the taskbar
3. taskbar icons are either too large or too small
4. microsoft didnt remove 'are you sure-y/n?' double check as users requested fully - you still get asked when dragging shortcuts.
5. upon installation 7 doesnt give you full admin rights
6. random shortcut icons can lose their image due to permissions

Why they are BOTH better:
1. they are arguably the most stable versions of windows ever released.

I could go on, but 8 is just 7 with an optional app interface. 8 has a start screen with optional apps, 7 has a start menu with optional gadgets (which I never used either). The 'hate of 8' is just overblown media hype, and of course from users of 7 not wanting to change from something they are used to. Its not a major change at all either, just an optional extra, and who cares about the startscreen instead of a startmenu. Its not a big deal. Use the taskbar and desktop to launch your most used programs like everyone else. As for touchscreen, this may eventually be an option on every single monitor one day, so the metro interface is not worthless. The windows app store at the moment however most definitely is. You only have to browse through, where users are trying to sell you 100 pictures of girls or cheap windows media players (using the very same logo as the microsoft player you already have installed). lol.

I second classic shell and start8 for the moaners. They will be updated to keep traditionalists happy. Where microsoft has truly made a mistake is in the option of whether you want to use a startmenu or the metro. What happened to choice??? But for now at least, there are solutions. As for any 'windows 9', that will essentially just be 8.2 or 8.3, and nothing but a new label to try and brainwash old skool 7 users into believing they have a fresh new OS and to give a new version of 8 with extra options another go. Windows 9, if ever released, may well be even further from 7 than 8, so I would enjoy the traditional desktop computing environment in 7 and 8 while you still can. Stop moaning. Apple users laugh at how much windows users complain and show no support.

By dracul on 20 Oct 2013

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