Intel CEO: Nokia should have gone with Android
By Nicole Kobie
Posted on 18 Feb 2011 at 09:20
Nokia should have opted to use Google Android instead of Microsoft's mobile platform, according to Intel's CEO.
Last week, Nokia announced it was migrating to Windows Phone 7, and sidelining its Symbian OS as well as its MeeGo joint project with Intel.
Paul Otellini said Nokia's CEO Stephen Elop had "incredible offers" from both Google and Microsoft to use their operating systems.
"I wouldn't have made the decision he made, I would probably have gone to Android if I were him," he told a conference call with analysts, according to Reuters. "MeeGo would have been the best strategy but he concluded he couldn't afford it."
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Earlier this week, Elop said the deal would be worth billions to Nokia.
Otellini said Nokia might find it hard to make outstanding handsets stand the Microsoft platform. "It would have been less hard on Android, on MeeGo he could have done it," he said.
Despite losing Nokia from the MeeGo project, Otellini believes the mobile OS still has a future. "We will find another partner," he said. "The carriers still want a third ecosystem and the carriers want an open ecosystem, and that's the thing that drives our motivation."
"Some closed models will certainly survive, because you can optimise the experience, but in general, if you harness the ability of all the engineers in the world and the developers in the world, open wins," he said.
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I run a small PC repair company and love my HTC Desire with Andriod on it. But the battery life on it stinks hardly even lasts a day not good enough for business usage. Nokia phones have always had a good battery life. Business wise Google Software is years behind Microsoft almost ever PC in the UK has Windows on it.
I believe Nokia have made the right move there is currently a gap in the market between Android for corporate business usage and blackberries in my opinion the Nokia/Microsoft partnership will fit it nicely.
By pchealer on 18 Feb 2011
Android's a race to the bottom
I love my rooted San Fran, but bluntly Nokia don't want to be in a market where they're fighting to distinguish themselves from ZTE or Samsung. They want to be producing premium products with decent margins. I think they went the right way.
By nichomach0 on 18 Feb 2011
There's nothing to stop Nokia following HTC and producing the same hardware but with different OSs on: N8 hardware with a choice of WP7 and Android would be fantastic. In fact, I'd probably buy the latter as the N8 is a brilliant piece of hardware let down by an out of date OS.
By The_Scrote on 18 Feb 2011
Nokia phones last longer because they are less useful!
@pchealer - your comparison is not valid, Nokia phone batteries last longer because:-
1) They have slower processors
2) They have less functional software.
If I use my Nokia to as a satnav system for an hour or two or take lots of photos the battery only lasts a day or so.
It takes so long to render a webpage that I've given up on that functionality.
By milliganp on 18 Feb 2011
Wrong Call Nokia
There is nothing stopping Nokia to continue producing premium devices with good battery life. The issue is the OS. Microsoft has always produced dire mobile OSs.
Windows for mobile devices has always been and still is awful. It is not the same experience as that provided by Apple, Android nor even Palm.
It has a massive brand name and all the resources that can be thrown at it. But its not resources that produce the best OSs - it is innovation.
Microsoft don't do innovation. They just buy innovative companies which eventually become Microsoft.
By Manuel on 18 Feb 2011
Right Call Nokia
Success isn't guaranteed but Win Phone 7 looks good already and Microsoft's recent track record is good, think Win 7, Office 2010, Server 2008, Kinnect etc. If MS gets the software right particularly as regards close integration with their business software, and Nokia turn out top notch hardware, I can see this marriage working well and seriously threatening RIM et al. Seriously, what was the alternative? Just become another commodity Android phone maker?
By rjp2000 on 18 Feb 2011
Right Call, Maybe
The Windows Phone 7 platform has great potential.
It is already slick & fast and as has been pointed-out runs very nicely on the same hardware as Android.
Recent announcements from MS suggest a slight broadening \ upgrading of the hardware spec (different processors, bigger screens), but they really must keep the platform "standard" a la iPhone.
If MS can get some updates out, FAST it will be a winner!
The jury has to be out though
By wittgenfrog on 18 Feb 2011
@Manuel - Have you actually seen or used Windows Phone 7?
It's by far the most innovative UI for a phone (Apple and Android just take the PC desktop grid of icons and throw it on a phone!).
By Grunthos on 18 Feb 2011
Totally agree. I couldn't work out why iPhone and Android didn't wow me until I realised it was because it wasn't job-centric but app-centric. Win Phone 7 is a total original.
By jgwilliams on 18 Feb 2011
Posts from the MS/Nokia PR machine filling up the comments I see...
Apart from some genuine (and regular) readers, most of the comments on this page seem to have been written by the Nokia/Microsoft PR departments. This would not be a new thing - we've had Amazon clogged up with paid-for reviews favouring specific products before, so moving to PCPro is no a surprise.
Paul Otellini is right - Nokia made the wrong choice. They gave up on Open Source. As for choosing Windows for a phone because "it is on the majority of PCs", well that's so out of touch with what mobile phones and their users need that it can only have come from Microsoft PR.
No Microsoft Mobile Phone OS has ever worked well, or been good to use, robust, efficient, or popular. This move with Nokia is a desperate attempt to buy market share. But as I read elsewhere, it's like two drunks propping each other up in the hope they'll then be able to walk straight. It won't work.
By SwissMac on 18 Feb 2011
Proof Nokia are paying for support
Two free smartphones for developers who give their support to Nokia:
By SwissMac on 18 Feb 2011
Have you actually used WP7? You say no MS phone OS has ever worked well or been good to use, I admit the old offerings from MS were pretty cack and kept trying to shoe-horn a start menu into a tiny phone but the new WP7 OS is a different and very accomplished effort.
Not perfect but definitely a contender, it's just a question now on the support and app developers now, but if Nokia and MS are working together they have a lot more strength to offer an alternative to Apple and Google, which as far as I'm concerned is a good thing, it brings innovation, better products and cheaper prices for all.
By Deano on 18 Feb 2011
So nice to hear that from Intel
So true as well !
By nicomo on 18 Feb 2011
"NOKIA \ MS PR Machine" strikes back!
What a lot of fact-free twaddle. Have you ever used WP7? Unlikely from the careful way you phrase your post.
By all means offer some valid criticism of WP7 (there are a lot of niggles) but a blanket "NAH!" really doesn't cut it.
As a commercial decision, NOKIA partnering with MS makes a lot of sense in a lot of areas only peripheral to 'phones.
Personally I like to have choice, and now there are three big players with good quality phone O/Ses and hopefully ever-improving hardware slugging it out.
By wittgenfrog on 18 Feb 2011
I like my WP7 phone and use it for almost everything now. The iPhone is still kicking around for work e-mail, but everything else is done on the WP7, because it is nicer to use, and to be frank, iOS feels dated now.
Nokia have one huge advantage with the WP7 platform, it is just starting out, there a no cheap, underpowered devices out there to give it a bad name, no carriers and manufacturers holding back on updates and tarnishing the user experience even further.
Nokia have the chance to make "the" benchmark phone for the platform, like htc did with the Desire and Samsung with the Galaxy S.
By big_D on 18 Feb 2011
Why not use both platforms
My dream is to have a phone that you can install any OS But thats wishfull thinking it wont happen. I dont see why Nokia cant use windows phone 7 and Android. Samsung already does that and its great
By sazihl on 18 Feb 2011
Re "NOKIA \ MS PR Machine" strikes back
Come on Swiss Mac up until the iPhone, Microsoft led the smart phone market. At the time the phones were very good, wonderful for developers, with a strong community such as xdadevelopers being the result. The phones did everything modern smart phones do, but were a bit fiddlier to use.
Unfortunately MS failed to anticipate capacitive touch screens. They also failed to do anything much from WM2005 until WP7 six years later.
MS also failed to anticipate the smart phone as a toy. Apples App Store changed smart phones from a business tool to a fashion accessory, and all of a sudden the usability target went from a business man to a teenager.
By tirons1 on 18 Feb 2011
Funny how the Microsoft shill wittgenfrog uses backslashes for comment separation:
"..MS suggest a slight broadening \ upgradin..". , when the less M$ concentric world (the rest of us) use forward slashes.
On a more sober note, this is Nokia's only chance for surviving their burning platform, i.e. to differentiate themselves from the rest.
I just hope that Microsoft don't let Nokia down, as they have all the other companies they've "friended" in the past...
By archiver on 18 Feb 2011
"when the less M$ concentric world (the rest of us) use forward slashes"
I take it as well as the forward slashes (which OK, I'd probably use), your keyboard doesn't have a capital "S"?
Funny how some people just can't bring themselves to type MS isn't it?
By AdrianB on 18 Feb 2011
Proof (maybe) That Nokia are being quite canny.
I'm not familiar with the electronista.com site, so can't comment on the veracity of thier reporting. But if the article is right then it makes perfect sense. Keep the developers happy and give them lots of support and offer them incentives to move over to C# & .Net - something they'll thank Nokia for in the long run ;-)
By rjp2000 on 18 Feb 2011
@tirons1 - Good comment
And it explains why we have all the child like fanboism that surrounds mobiles these days :-(
By rjp2000 on 18 Feb 2011
Nokia & Microsoft Software
The commenter "pchealer" is typical of mindless and nonsensical responses to the article, since Windows on most desktops has absolutely nothing to do with Android and iOS domination in Mobile phone industry.
Furthermore, referring to any wistful idea that Windows is only "business" choice is farcical, since almost every bank, financial institution and large corporation, and technology companies internationally like IBM, Oracle, Intel, Samsung, Siemens Google, Facebook, Twitter, linkedin, NASA in USA, et al use Linux as infrastructure. Windows on desktop is a business success for Microsoft and nothing to do with technology capability.
By weanderson on 19 Feb 2011
Dismissing MS competitors as "toys" so out of touch
When you read of someone dissing MS competitors as "toys" or "not for business" you realise how little they understand smartphones and how far behind the times the Windows ecosystem is. The attacks are unimaginative and no more than a regurgitation of the #fail MS WP7 ad concept that proves MS still doesn't "get" smartphones. Google and Apple clearly do.
As usual, Microsoft is playing catch-up copycat, without really understanding why their competitors are successful.
By SwissMac on 19 Feb 2011
Hold on a minute...
Oh dear,Swissie boy you're off on one again! tirons1 didn't dismiss Google and Apple products as just toys. He said (quite) accurately that we've gone from PDAs as mainly business tools to smartphones that are as much about games and fashion as they are about business use. Or to put it another way, they've gone from running programs like Expenses calculators to running fart apps! I think its a fair comment, and he did say MS had failed to see that change coming. And its why Windows Mobile just couldn't cut it because people with the attention span of a knat can't be bothered to delve into the features. It has to be obvious (some might say dumbed down) and of course finger friendly, hence the need for WP7.
By rjp2000 on 19 Feb 2011
I think your comment is also typical of people who don't read other people's comments correctly, and then go off on one about somthing that was never said. For example, pchealer never said that Windows is the only business choice. So your rather condescending comment is just a pointless rant. Of course that's just my opinion, feel free to disagree ;-))
By rjp2000 on 19 Feb 2011
Change of mind?
Yet a couple days earlier, Bloomberg reports "Otellini said today he “understood” why Nokia is pursuing a tie-up with Microsoft and said he would have made “the same or a similar call.” "
By chapelgarth on 19 Feb 2011
Is OS so important?
Native mobile apps are very popular these days, what gives importance for OS for now.
However, when HTML5 gains traction, OSes may become totally irrelevant.
By inlevel on 24 Feb 2011
HTC Desire battery life
@pchealer If you don't get a day from your battery, it's because of how you have set your phone up. I can easily get standby times of 100 hours and "normal" usage of a couple of days, and no I haven't switched all the features off before you ask.
By poglad on 24 Feb 2011
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