Jailbreakme promises to set Apple fans free

Bunch of idiots

There's always some idiots in the world. They are the losers in all this jailbreaking hype. But then they're probably used to being that way in life.

I see the point in taking a piece of hardware and then seeing just how far you can go with re-engineering the software and exploiting the untapped resource that may be built in to it. But for most of the 'jailbreakers', they have neither the wit nor wisdom to fully uncerstand what they are doing or how to do it.

That's the problem with giving engineer level tooling to the uneducated masses. Next we'll be giving the ability to diagnose their own health issues and issue their own prescriptions. Maybe then we'll get somewhere as the idiots drop like flies.

By mbassoc on 2 Aug 2010

RE: Bunch of idiots

Wow, that was a strongly worded piece of vitriol - way to tell 'em, mbassoc! Seriously, why the negativity? I haven't gone to the trouble of jailbreaking my iPhone 3GS, though I may consider it.

Lots of technology enthusiasts, like me, want to play around with things, and jailbreaking gives access to cool things like WiFi synchronisation, which Apple has seen fit to exclude from the iTunes App Store.

I accept that jailbreaking my handset will be at my own risk, and that I'll have to stump up for a new phone if it gets bricked, but that's my lookout, not yours - why does it cause you so much ire?

By flyingbadger on 2 Aug 2010

@mbassoc

It all depends.

If jailbreaking simply puts the owner into an incomprehensible front panel, then yes, you are right, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
However, the other argument is Apple have an absurd level of say about what can or cannot go on iPod or iPhone, most of which is to do with fear of competition and American middle-class morality (ie. its OK to shoot someone, but never show a nipple...) and some people would prefer to have the device without Apple dictating how they use it.
I have never bothered looking at jailbreaking my iPhone, because there's nothing I need that it didn't do.

When all is said and done, it's my phone, not Apple's, so if I want to jail-break it, why shouldn't I?

By cheysuli on 2 Aug 2010

mbassoc - frustrated apple employee? Lol :-)

By Lomskij on 2 Aug 2010

Not and Apple employee

If the case for jailbreaking were ever to be substantiated outside of the pure realms of research and engineering (for the masses as it were), then the only way to demonstate its validity would be for an enterprise to buy handsets and offer a complete OS swapout, and be able to do it better and with greater security and less bugs than Apple are currently able to do.

Anything less than that takes you into the realms of enthusiast, or research and engineering. The first group, if they have the time, money and inclination, are just reusing redundant technology (iP3G etc). They would be stupid to be playing around with their iP4s. The second group are presumably those who for whatever reason are trailblazing in one sector or other (Gizmodo for example).

Either way, the vast majority of people who the jailbreaking industry and more importantly, the irresponsible IT press, are marketting towards, is the casual user with the lower than average intelligence and the desire to F up their phones. It is that target market that are the idiots.

By mbassoc on 2 Aug 2010

Cross Contamination

Just for a laugh i wonder if anyone has thought about trying to engineer Android to run on the Iphone.That would get right up Jobs Mobs noses.:-)

By Jaberwocky on 2 Aug 2010

@jaberwocky

It's already in progress.... android on an iphone.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/196595/how_to_insta
ll_android_on_your_iphone.html

@mbassoc - geez, man, is this a cup half full day?

By CraigieDD on 2 Aug 2010

It was quite interesting how the Library of Congress decided it

Apple put their arguments forward and the panel basically went "yeah, but what's that got to do with copyright?

By steviesteveo on 2 Aug 2010

Jailbreaking

I have to agree with LoC. It cannot be morally justifiable to say that a person buying a piece of hardware is not allowed to amend, alter or run different software on it. Otherwise the logical extension of that would be to have MS say you cannot amend, alter or change their OS. So it was always going to be a given, even if some countries still live in the dark ages of the world (my own included).

I'm aware of various android ports onto the iP4, but at the end of the day, none of the current batches of alternate OS's offer both the fascility and security of the native iOS. Even with it's present failings.

Whilst the open source OS model worked with NS dominating the OS market (let's face it. If you're in business you're F'd with any other OS), the same will not hold true for the phone OS market. Phone OS's face the same market challenges as the alternate PDA OS's did at the turn of the century. I'm waiting to see what MS decide to market before making my mind up, but I'd be willing to bet that the market in three years time will be dominated by Apple and Microsoft's phone OS, and that everyone will be writing Apps for both and shell extensions for the MS platform. Android may have promise, but I suspect it's just a toy, and MS will kill it just a swiftly as they killed Symbian's aspirations of progress.

By mbassoc on 2 Aug 2010

Doubtless

the people behind this will be burned in effigy by the Apple fan-bois, dancing around in iMac coloured robes and wearing Steve Jobs face masks. "Burn the heretics, burn them, burn them".

Will the Great One himself not smite them? If not with a bolt of fire, then at the very least, a lawsuit.

By Lacrobat on 3 Aug 2010

.... See

See, there are idiots on both sides of the fence. People's views of the horison are somewhat limited when they have their heads up their ar$es.

By mbassoc on 3 Aug 2010

@mbassoc

At least the idiots are able to spell "horizon"...... ;-)

By CraigieDD on 3 Aug 2010

jailbreak

I have an iPhone 3G and it is jailbroken. I do this for several reasons.

It takes me less than 10 min. As scary as jailbreaking may sound to people you are essentially installing an app that works like apple's app store but allows you to install other apps.

iPhone 4 touted spell-checking as a new feature (c'mon!). I've had spelling checking for the past one and a half years. I've also been able to send groups text messages for that period of time, Oh, and also been multitasking. My calendar appears on my lockscreen as do any new emails and sms'. I have an app where my phone blocks all calls at times I specify on days I specify and keeps a log of the blocked calls; no interruptions to meetings. These are but a few benefits, the list could go on.

I upgraded to iOS 4 which was a disaster on my 3G. The phone slowed so much that the reaction time to answering a call was so slow that I missed calls! Through jailbreaking I was back on iOS 3 in 15 min.

I purchased my iPhone legitimately whilst living in India from Vodafone. Having returned to the UK, Vodafone and Apple refuse to unlock the phone making it a paperweight. Thankfully, jailbreaking means I can use the iPhone anywhere on any network.

What I don't get is that Microsoft have been fined not only for only running IE on their OS, but also fined for not giving people a choice of browsers. How on earth do Apple get away with excluding apps from the iPhone and their dictatorial stance?

By svs777 on 5 Aug 2010

jailbreak

I have an iPhone 3G and it is jailbroken. I do this for several reasons.

It takes me less than 10 min. As scary as jailbreaking may sound to people you are essentially installing an app that works like apple's app store but allows you to install other apps.

iPhone 4 touted spell-checking as a new feature (c'mon!). I've had spelling checking for the past one and a half years. I've also been able to send groups text messages for that period of time, Oh, and also been multitasking. My calendar appears on my lockscreen as do any new emails and sms'. I have an app where my phone blocks all calls at times I specify on days I specify and keeps a log of the blocked calls; no interruptions to meetings. These are but a few benefits, the list could go on.

I upgraded to iOS 4 which was a disaster on my 3G. The phone slowed so much that the reaction time to answering a call was so slow that I missed calls! Through jailbreaking I was back on iOS 3 in 15 min.

I purchased my iPhone legitimately whilst living in India from Vodafone. Having returned to the UK, Vodafone and Apple refuse to unlock the phone making it a paperweight. Thankfully, jailbreaking means I can use the iPhone anywhere on any network.

What I don't get is that Microsoft have been fined not only for only running IE on their OS, but also fined for not giving people a choice of browsers. How on earth do Apple get away with excluding apps from the iPhone and their dictatorial stance?

By svs777 on 5 Aug 2010