Apple iPad arrives 3 April... but not in the UK

Not Better

"not better than anything".

Just like the iPad then. Not better than an iPhone, netbook, laptop or desktop.

It's better than a fridge magnet!!!

By Steve_Adey on 5 Mar 2010

Is there an app. for that?

By M_Hamer on 5 Mar 2010

Nobody's forcing you to buy one...

If you don't have the imagination to see how useful this device will be for many people, fine. If you don't want one, don't buy one and quit complaining! You might want to check this out first though:
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/04/peng
uin_books_bets_big_on_ipad_interactive_content.htm
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By SwissMac on 5 Mar 2010

@SwissMac

Get a sense of humour dude! People are entitled to their opinion.

And the iPad will be a dreadful eBook reader whether it's sucessful or not (it will probably be a huge success because of all the Apple brand muppets). Eink screen were invented for a reason, the iPad is no different from reading on a laptop or monitor.

By Grunthos on 5 Mar 2010

Pointless device....

....another Apple 'iProduct' for the fanboys to salivate over. Pretty pointless - if you want mobile computing you get a netbook. If you want something less, you get a smartphone. Simples.

By everton2004 on 5 Mar 2010

Can e-Ink do video within a book? Can you read it at night in dim lighting? Did you even watch the video? Thought not. "Unimaginative and want to stay that way" describes a lot of people who don't understand that most Apple users are PC users too and actually see the difference.

By SwissMac on 5 Mar 2010

Connectivity?

Still don't see this as a game-changer without 3G as standard.
If I don't have a PC etc, and I buy an iPad without 3G - where do I use it? (If you tell me Starbucks, that just confirms it...) So that's £130 onto the £500 I'm already paying... (Or whatever the Apple exchange rate comes in at)

By AdrianB on 5 Mar 2010

The iPad was the start

The evolution continues...
See http://ve3d.ign.com/images/fullsize/68276/Other/Ge
neral/3D/March-4-Pic-of-the-Day

By cheysuli on 5 Mar 2010

@cheysuli LOL! Great link...

By SwissMac on 6 Mar 2010

Grunthos

Mac users don't have a sense of humour I'm afraid.

By Lacrobat on 6 Mar 2010

@Lacrobat Maybe, maybe not, but I'm ROFLMAO at what you write!

By SwissMac on 6 Mar 2010

Watched the video, apart from the interactive star charts it wasn't that impressive. Looks like a glorified Flash/Silverlight app.
Still good comments, reminds me of the good old days when there were proper forums on here.

By jamesyld on 7 Mar 2010

Typical Apple Move

Target the most stupid & gullible market first, buy out the reviewers and build up it popularity. Hopefully by the time they get to the UK & Europe they will have ironed out all the most irritating bugs and the UK market by that time will be lusting for it!

By nicomo on 7 Mar 2010

@ SwissMac

I can totally understand why some people here have some, shall we say disgruntlement, with the iPad, based on Steve Jobs' totally typical arrogance and condescension with regards to netbooks, by saying they're "not better than anything".

This statement, to me and many others, exemplified Apple's arrogance that no-one can innovate or create great products apart from themselves.

Steve's comments about netbooks either showed a complete lack of knowledge of the netbook market as a whole, or a blindingly egotistical denial of the successes of other products.

Speaking for myself, things that netbooks do (and did upon release) better than any other product, are: portability, just enough power for the job needed, excellent battery lives and pricing.

Yeah, sure, they can't run Crysis, but if you don't want something to run powerful games on and don't want to spend £1000+- on an ultralight, and don't want to be running to a power socket every hour or two, netbooks are just fine - and your best option.

And SwissMac - regarding "video within an Ebook" comment - E-Ink is coming on leaps and bounds and there are several models coming out over the next year or two which can display video, even in colour.

But obviously things like pricing coupled with decent features are just as important points to Steve Jobs as things like multi-tasking, aren't they? I mean, who in their right minds wants to do that on a cheap device? Obviously no-one, which is why no device on the planet can do that and why Apple doesn't see netbooks as good at anything.

By bioreit on 8 Mar 2010

Multi-tasking. LAWL!

You forgot. You're not allowed to use the *hush* multi-tasking word where Apple are concerned. Burn the heretic!

By PaleRider on 8 Mar 2010

@ SwissMac

Just wondering... If you went to, say, German Sheppard Breeders Club would you be just as grumpy about the fact that no one there seems to like cats? :>

By Josefov on 8 Mar 2010

@Josefov If no one here likes Macs, how come the magazine regularly carries stories about Apple products from iPhone and iPad, to tests on individual Mac computers? You have to widen your horizons a little bit...

Sure, Steve Jobs over-egged the presentation a bit (it's his first project back at work since his cancer and liver transplant) but you shouldn't underestimate how successful this thing is going to be. Not perhaps with technical users or Linux bods, but with the technially illiterate - ie the mothers, sisters and grapdparents of computer users who until now have refused to use a computer due to the interface (the keyboard) being too complicated for them. Add to that the under fives market, the health professionals who need a device that is easy to clean ie with no buttons to collect the many hospital borne bacteria there are these days.

I suspect the device will be far more popular with people who are never going to post on a computer magazine forum than it will be with computer nerds like some PC users.

Rather than just saying everyone who has ever bought anything off Apple is a "fanboy" consider the reverse of this: that those who have a knee jerk resistance to doing so are in fact not being logical, but are simply being emotional "anti-Apple fanboys".

By SwissMac on 8 Mar 2010

But technical users and gadget fans are the only people who are going to splash out so very much money on a device, which frankly serves no REAL purpose.
Of the groups which you propose, SwissMac, it is only the most privileged under fives whom I can see benefiting from its interface, and it will simply not be robust enough for them. Health budgets will not run to these devices, and frankly, the professional level and specialist software will not be there.
This is clearly a branch which some computer devices will take (we have been using tablets for many years now for driverless vehicle systems where the small form factor is a plus, as is the touch-screen) but only where the application demands the form. Otherwise, it is an answer to a question which is either not being asked, or is being answered better elsewhere.

By PaleRider on 8 Mar 2010

@ SwissMac

Deas SwissMac,

Since you seem to be unable to read carefully I'll try to show you how it's done.

1. 'If no one here likes Macs, how come the magazine regularly carries stories about Apple products(...)?'

Because it's the Magazine's business what they write about. I was only commenting on you being surprised about negative comments from PCPro's READERS (they DO NOT equal MAGAZINE nor MAGAZINE'S JOURNALISTS). I thought it was quite clear for anyone who'd bother to read carefully and with
understanding.

2. 'Sure, Steve Jobs over-egged the presentation a bit (...) but you shouldn't underestimate how
successful this thing is going to be.'

Well, I didn't. I've not said a word about the device nor Steve Jobs or his presentation. I thought
it was quite clear for anyone who'd bother to read carefully and with understanding. What's more, I totally agree with you. Steve Jobs did over-egged the presentation and the thing is going to be
immensely successful. Many things have in history. Tamagochi, for instance. Useless but people still
were buying it by millions. If that's not a successful device, I don't know what is.

3. 'Rather than just saying everyone who has ever bought anything off Apple is a "fanboy" consider
the reverse of this(...)'

I have never said that everyone who has ever bought anything off Apple is a "fanboy". I thought it
was quite clear for anyone who'd bother to read carefully and with understanding. I might have made some jokes in the past about Mac owners' sexual preferences but never publicly over Internet so it
shouldn't count in this particular discussion. Although I must confess that they were never good jokes and some actual gay people could potentially feel offended. Either way, you put in my mouth words that were never
there and I find it rude and unfair to say the least.

I also don't appreciate your comments on my horizons. I find it rather rude and definitely too personal coming from someone I've never met and ho has absolutely no idea about me and my actual horizons. Making such comments based only on the principal of me using or not using Apple products would surely indicate a certain amount of, shall we say, narrow-mindedness, n'est-ce pas? It's a little bit like accusing me of having not wide enough horizons only because I have no intention of going to Thailand for example. I mean, if someone's been and liked it there, good luck to him or her but it doesn't mean that suddenly we all need to go under the threat of being called miserable gits without horizons. Same rule applies here. What could be useful to understand is that we all here use PCs not for the pure hatred of Macs but simply because PCs do, what we need and/or want them to do.

We do not need the Apple's so called 'innovation' just for the sake of it. And since we're not suffering from any inferiority complex we don't mind using tools, devices and solutions that are designed to do the job, not to boast our confidence by the means of artificially created and animated subculture of branded coolness.

And one last thing.
As you have mentioned yourself, PCPro magazine 'regularly carries stories about Apple products from
iPhone and iPad, to tests on individual Mac computers'. Surely that means that us, PC folk (and that includes Windows users, Linux users and users of any other OS happy to run on any given PC standard hardware) are tolerant enough to read about them and don't make a fuss about it. Which, kind of, actually makes me feel good about myself, when I think of Mac users coming over to our own playground to spit venom and show us how wrong (and limited) we are in our PC ways...

I really hope I haven't missed anything but if you still have any doubts (and/or complaints) about my opinions and horizons, please don't hesitate to ask. You may also want to personally target some
of the other disputants here but, obviously, I cannot guarantee that they'll have as much patience for you as I do.

With regards
Josefov

By Josefov on 9 Mar 2010