Mozilla to turn its back on Tiger
By Stuart Turton
Posted on 8 Feb 2010 at 09:17
Mozilla is ready to exorcise support for Mac OS X 10.4 from Firefox's development code, closing the door on Apple's ageing OS.
The foundation stopped supporting 10.4, codenamed Tiger, in September 2009, but, according to Josh Aas, a Mozilla platform engineer, "we left much of the code required to support that platform in the tree in case we wanted to reverse that decision."
"We have come to a point where we need to make a final decision and either restore 10.4 support or remove this (large) amount of 10.4 specific code," he notes on the Mozilla developer planning forum.
We have come to a point where we need to make a final decision and either restore 10.4 support or remove this (large) amount of 10.4 specific code
Aas admits that supporting Tiger is a "hindrance", but admits that the decision isn't quite as clear cut as the foundation would like. According to its own usage figures, 24% of people running the Mac version of Firefox 3.5 rely on Tiger, bolstered by a further 12% of Firefox 3.6 users.
In all, the foundation reckons "approximately 1.5 million people are using Firefox on 10.4." Unsurprisingly, the decision to drop the code brought a heated exchange on the forum.
"So, in the end my opinion doesn't count for anything," posts Philip Jones. "Use a two-track method. Designate one for older versions and one for newer versions. You can create one with all the fancy new stuff, then one for us poor people that have to hang on to older equipment out of necessity."
The suggestion didn't exactly sit well with Mozilla's director of community development Asa Dotzler, who shot back: "does this suggestion come with a donation for doubling of full-time development resources, QA and testing, build and release infrastructure, and user support for this second track that would cover a shrinking minority of Firefox on Mac users?"
"I suspect that any sane outcome of this discussion will have to prioritise Mozilla's project resources over your personal resources," he concludes.
Sounds like an advert for windows!
OS X 10.5 was launched in late October 2007 and Tiger dates from 2005, so this is like saying "we don't support XP". However it points to the fact that OS X does not maintain backward compatibility. If Microsoft did that imagine the uproar.
By milliganp on 8 Feb 2010 
Same with Chrome
I've got an old Mac running 10.4.11, which I use for testing odd bits and pieces when I need to check something on a Mac. It's already quite noticeable that support for this version is decreasing - Chrome doesn't run on it, and I've come across assorted other bits of software which won't run either.
Just the price of progess I guess - although XP is a lot older than 10.4 and is still pretty much universally supported.
By davidbryant4 on 8 Feb 2010 
Apple have abandoned it, so why shouldn't Mozilla? Read the thread and always surprised by the amount of people in the world who want what they want for free... and expect others to pay for it. Wonder if that Phillip Jones guy is claiming housing benefit for 2 addresses... hmmmm...?
By mcmpro1 on 8 Feb 2010 
@milliganp - True, but imagine if netbooks hadn't come along to revive XP - I wonder how many people would be using it now? Plus imagine if Vista had been as good as Windows 7. Would more people have upgraded from XP to Vista? Leopard is a worthy upgrade from Tiger, in a way that Vista isn't over XP. Anyway, a lot of what-ifs.
By pbryanw on 8 Feb 2010 
I'd probably still be using XP on my desktop even without netbooks coming along tbh. That's because my main computer has become the one running Linux since XP was released, though.
I don't like how these support ending decisions are presented. The computers, with Firefox 3.6 on them, will still work as they always have. You won't lose the internet because of this decision.
It's like how when a new Apple computer leaves a connection behind there's a kerfuffle about how this hurts people who bought an earlier computer, when it really doesn't.
By steviesteveo on 8 Feb 2010 
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