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siwalker
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: recommendations for business email hosting |
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I need some decent quality email hosting - 20 accounts - with good anti-spam/virus, POP3, web access, and full control of auto-responders, etc. IMAP optional.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
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fiendishlyclever
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: recommendations for business email hosting |
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| siwalker wrote: | I need some decent quality email hosting - 20 accounts - with good anti-spam/virus, POP3, web access, and full control of auto-responders, etc. IMAP optional.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
simon |
Google Apps. Prices from free depending on the features you want (filtering, archiving etc).
I've got the free version for home and use the education version at work (with Postini). I can recommend both.
Usually when Gmail goes down (which isn't very often) you can still use POP and IMAP to access your mail, you also get Google docs etc thrown in as well. |
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mprltd
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If it for personal use that be a good way to go or internal only e-mail for work.
If it for work i.e. sending e-mail to you end-users or to growing the company than it a very bad idea.
also it depends on what you sell/service etc
most government (NHS, Local, NGO etc etc) contracts say they will not deal with people with a 'free' e-mail service.
Also a very high percentage of people will not touch a company with a hotmail like address so you hobbling your company big time - you be losing more money than saving it having a free e-mail service.
From experience Zen or another company from the A list will be a better bet but that cost money but it better spent.
I also forgot to say a number of university have this year moved over to Google to supply there students with e-mail services and from talking to some of them they not a happy bunch - this is because they lost there .ac.uk address. Thus Microsoft and other companies are not seeing them as students and they as not getting access to services they would normally get.
Mark
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fiendishlyclever
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| mprltd wrote: | If it for personal use that be a good way to go or internal only e-mail for work.
If it for work i.e. sending e-mail to you end-users or to growing the company than it a very bad idea.
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Did you bother to check Google Apps out before you replied? Google Apps is NOT GMail (although you get google mail as part of the package).
You use it with your own domain name - so there is no bad impression etc. You also get google docs, google sites etc - all under your domain name. There are many huge coporations using it - surely they wouldn't if what you said was true.
Perhaps you should do your homework before you respond?  |
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mprltd
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| fiendishlyclever wrote: | | mprltd wrote: | If it for personal use that be a good way to go or internal only e-mail for work.
If it for work i.e. sending e-mail to you end-users or to growing the company than it a very bad idea.
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Did you bother to check Google Apps out before you replied? Google Apps is NOT GMail (although you get google mail as part of the package).
You use it with your own domain name - so there is no bad impression etc. You also get google docs, google sites etc - all under your domain name. There are many huge coporations using it - surely they wouldn't if what you said was true.
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Thank you for pointing that out
but I have another question:
If that correct why has all the students that have been change to Google mail service lost there .ac.uk address? or is the domain name have different rules to what they can put after the dote - for-example the local university can have all there student signed up but they have the follow e-mail address: john.doe@portsmouth.university.co.uk
This could effect the person business again where everyone else or governing body says you have to have this or that in you e-mail address and they can not do it - ie the students that I have to support - thay lost there .ac.uk bit of there e-mail so they are now not seen as students.
but would you put all you data on a cloud?
there been a number of data losses this year and company being left high and dry because suppliers going bankrupt or internet not good enough?
Also think of it this way - would you trust Google to look after your NHS health record?
and how many times has the USA government tried to control companies with laws about access, ownership of data storage and terrorism so they can gain access to all that information.
Just look at the current USA law over laptop and data when flying to the USA.
Personally I use the cloud for back you and still have back up and access locally from work servers. If I do need to use a cloud for everything I use an European company.
if also if its a cost thing as well you could always use free open source software like open office running on your computers
Mark
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fiendishlyclever
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| mprltd wrote: | but would you put all you data on a cloud?
there been a number of data losses this year and company being left high and dry because suppliers going bankrupt or internet not good enough?
Also think of it this way - would you trust Google to look after your NHS health record?
and how many times has the USA government tried to control companies with laws about access, ownership of data storage and terrorism so they can gain access to all that information.
Just look at the current USA law over laptop and data when flying to the USA.
if you do need to use a cloud use an European company.
Mark |
I don't use Google Docs much - they are good for publishing or sharing, but I prefer a full featured office suite. Having said that Google do let you download all your docs at once, so you can back them up and not depend on the cloud.
You use mail the same as any other server - if you use POP3/IMAP then you have the choice to keep a local copy. I've been using Google Apps to provide mail for my personal domain for over 2 years and it is excellent. I moved from 1and1 (slow browsing etc) and haven't looked back.
As for data protection our laws are just as bad as those of the US. Legally the you can use Google Apps (google safe harbor) from a data protection point of view. If the government want to see your email records they'll get them regardless. Only way around this is to host in a country that they can't apply pressure to. Reading my emails wouldn't be very interesting so I don't worry about it. I'd imagine most dodgy dealings would use encryption and tor/proxying anyway.
Edit: See who has 'goneGoogle' - http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23gonegoogle
(And the ac.uk is more likely to be due to JANET rules than Google's doing (the hosting is outside the JANET network)). |
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mprltd
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: recommendations for business email hosting |
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| siwalker wrote: | I need some decent quality email hosting - 20 accounts - with good anti-spam/virus, POP3, web access, and full control of auto-responders, etc. IMAP optional.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
simon |
would going a looking at the 'A' list be any good?
From looking at Zen ('A' list winner for how many years) when I was changing ISP they had services for companies.
Mark |
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