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Buy a tech treat from abroad

Posted on 20 Aug 2010 at 11:22

“The import charges themselves are an incredibly complicated set of rules,” said Moneysupermarket’s Simon James, an assessment with which it’s difficult to argue. “I think it’s something a lot of people aren’t particularly aware of.”

Nailing down which of the 14,000 categories your new product will fall into is tricky, but a good place to start is HMRC’s list of common internet goods.

Baffling system

It’s something many consumers are likely to find baffling. A few years ago, Simon James bought a box set of DVDs from Amazon.com for his wife.

“I got them for about £50,” he said, “but when they turned up in the country, I had to pay something like another £40 to actually take delivery of the item.” The added duty and VAT charges were so severe that he admitted defeat. “Ultimately, it was so much that I ended up simply having the product returned to Amazon, and I received a refund on it.”

He believes retailers often make the situation worse by failing to bring international shoppers’ attention to the possibility of import taxes. “The retailers usually hide stuff away in the small print about the fact you might be liable to pay import charges.”

Dynamism CEO Douglas Krone agrees that it’s a fine line to tread. He said there’s no “practical way” for a small or medium-sized company to claim back VAT from the British government, so Dynamism doesn’t add it at the point of sale, although VAT is estimated on Dynamism’s site.

We tell people to assume they’re going to pay it

“We tell people to assume they’re going to pay it,” he said.

Amazon.com – which perhaps is at an advantage because of its size – goes one better. When you head to the checkout, an Import Fees Deposit is added, covering you for customs duty and VAT. If the delivered amount is less, the difference is refunded.

But if retailers don’t always make life easy on consumers, HMRC itself makes matters worse. While researching this feature, PC Pro appealed for help from consumers who had bought technology products from abroad. Some said they’d been charged VAT and customs duty on their imports, while others avoided the same charges. That uncertainty, said Simon James, leads to consumers being “stung”.

“People get stung occasionally, because maybe on the first couple of orders it does slide through the system, and they don’t get caught,” he said. “Then they get overconfident, and then they do get stung on something.”

For its part, HMRC said “many millions of items” are imported to the UK every year. A spokesperson told PC Pro that it “has to strike a careful balance between ensuring compliance and enforcement costs… while avoiding unnecessary impacts on UK markets and loss of tax revenue.”

In other words, the cost of checking the value of every package arriving in the UK would be prohibitive. It’s also unlikely the UK Border Agency, whose job it is to assess customs and VAT on incoming air passengers, would be able to prove an electronic device was bought abroad if the box and receipt were missing.

Worth the effort?

For products that are unavailable in the UK, British buyers are left with an easy choice: buying online can net you exciting products first, and buying from abroad is easier than ever, either through established vendors such as Amazon, or independent sellers on eBay.

But the water is muddier for bargain-hunters. Rip-off Britain is still alive and well, with products for sale in the UK opportunistically priced higher by manufacturers.

But with taxes on imported electronic goods adding as much as a quarter to the final price, bargains on tech treats may not always be as they first appear.

Author: Dave Stevenson

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By jbarnett on 20 Aug 2010

Broken Link!

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By BornOnTheCusp on 20 Aug 2010

Britain is not alone, in fact its not that bad here. I know of an EU country that is still denied the iPhone which as been on the UK market for years.

By McDragonSI on 21 Aug 2010

What do you take us for?

Why is it at PC Pro you lot often talk about the UK as if it is a 3rd world country? If any of you don't like the way things are here, I suggest you go and live somewhere else.

By formula_86 on 21 Aug 2010

3rd World?

If it was 3rd world, they wouldn't be complaining, because the tech would be dirt cheap...

The problem is, because the UK is a small market and most stuff has to be imported, it tends to be more expensive than bigger markets.

That said, mainland Europe often get a far worse deal than the UK - especially for software. As was pointed out in the box-out interview with me (not on this web page, but in the magazine itself), software like Creative Suite, which is a rip-off in the UK, costs another 30-40% more in Germany... It is actually cheaper to fly to New York, stay in a good hotel, eat a meal, buy a copy of CS and fly back again!

By big_D on 23 Aug 2010

@formula_86

If we don't like the way things are here, we get them changed.
It's called democracy

By greemble on 23 Aug 2010

Small market?

I should have thought that the UK market ranked quite high in terms of size. In addition, I have noticed that many products and the their marketing are identical to those marketed in the USA.

By Arthurbitter on 23 Aug 2010

@Arthurbitter

The UK is a very small market, globally speaking.

Some American States have a bigger market than the UK, let alone the whole country. Parts of Asia also dwarf the UK market.

Mainland Europe is also a bigger market, for some goods, although software needs to be localised.

On top of that, you have the UK VAT, which makes American prices look even more attractive, as they are all without sales tax, as that depends on where you buy the products - it can range from 0% to well over 20%, depending on which State you are in.

European power cords are also more standardised, so they can be used in several countries, the products for the UK need to have the UK 3-pin plug, which is unique to the UK.

The collapse of the Pound last year, means that the UK is now a favourite shopping destination for many Europeans, because everything is now so cheap...

By big_D on 24 Aug 2010

Yes and no...

big_D's right about Adobe. It's cheaper to fly over the Atlantic for it.

Those "UK only" power cords are also used in the Irish Republic so not quite unique.

The UK is a huge market. A small market would be somehwere like Ireland who coincidentally already have the sky high rate on VAT and are expected to pay Irish VAT rates on any international tech purchase and where we also have to charge the higher VAT rate on any service work such as web design.

The solution to most of these issues would be to use the web to setup some kind of international purchase system which utilises members of a buying network in locations across the world in order to take advantage of local purchasing rates, and circumventing the price fixing currently in place with vertical tech markets.

By Gindylow on 25 Aug 2010

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