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		<title>Berners-Lee: Stop foaming at the mouth, Twitter</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2011/04/19/berners-lee-stop-foaming-at-the-mouth-twitter/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nicole Kobie</dc:creator>
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Sir Tim Berners-Lee is credited with inventing the web, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he loves everything that&#8217;s on it &#8212; and that includes Twitter and Facebook.
Sir Tim has a well-documented aversion to social networking, previously describing the walled gardens of Facebook and LinkedIn as one of the threats to the web. But those who prefer [...]]]></description>
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<p>Sir Tim Berners-Lee is credited with inventing the web, but that doesn&#8217;t mean he loves everything that&#8217;s on it &#8212; and that includes Twitter and Facebook.</p>
<p>Sir Tim has a well-documented aversion to social networking, previously describing the walled gardens of Facebook and LinkedIn as <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/363007/tim-berners-lee-warns-of-threats-against-web">one of the threats to the web</a>. But those who prefer the more open-natured Twitter over Facebook shouldn&#8217;t feel favoured by the <a title="Twitter" href="http://twitter.com/#!/timberners_lee">web-creator&#8217;s sporadic tweets</a> &#8212; he doesn&#8217;t have kind words for the nature of updates being shared.</p>
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<p>S<a title="PC Pro" href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/366859/berners-lee-net-neutrality-takes-constant-vigilance">peaking at a W3C conference in Oxford</a>, he said he was monitoring tweets containing the word &#8216;neutrality&#8217; when the <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/broadband/365356/us-net-neutrality-rules-overturned">FCC was voting on net neutralit</a>y earlier this year.  &#8221;Watching the Twitter stream go by, I noticed what people said &#8212; people who understood what it [net neutrality] was and people who didn’t understand what it was &#8212;  all of the tweets were extreme,&#8221; Berners-Lee claimed.</p>
<blockquote><p>How do you design a form of Twitter, how do you change the retweet system, so that Twitter will end up gathering a body of reasoned debate?</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;They were just foaming at the mouth, frustrated with how stupid President Obama was that he didn’t do complete net neutrality, or foaming at the mouth at how stupid President Obama was because he was sneaking this net neutrality thing in to take control of the internet before the next election so that he could win. They were all foaming at the mouth, furious.&#8221;</p>
<p>Berners-Lee said there were sane tweets &#8212; &#8220;hmm, there seem to be two sides to the net neutrality arguement&#8221; &#8212; but those comments weren&#8217;t being retweeted.  &#8221;One possibility is that Twitter, in that case, is a medium which was only amplifying the emotionally charged,&#8221; he suggested.</p>
<p>With those criticisms, he set a challenge to attendees &#8212; and I hereby extend it to the rest of the world.  &#8221;How do you design a form of Twitter, how do you change the retweet system, so that Twitter will end up gathering a body of reasoned debate?&#8221; he asked.</p>
<p><strong>Stretching for Facebook friends</strong></p>
<p>Berners-Lee had some suggestions for Facebook-style social networks, too &#8212; and it wasn&#8217;t just to do with open data and walled gardens.</p>
<p>Sir Tim said social-network systems are very good at introducing us to people we already know, letting us communicate very well &#8220;in our own little online dialect with our friends of our friends in a tightly knit bundle&#8221;, but not at &#8220;stretching&#8221; our ability to meet new people. Consider your own friends list, and it&#8217;s hard to say that isn&#8217;t true.</p>
<blockquote><p>How do we build the web so that every now and then it introduces us to people who are not friends of friends</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;How do we build the web so that every now and then it introduces us to people who are not friends of friends,&#8221; he pondered. For example, if you were a &#8220;white male geek living in London, speaking English, you’re Church of England, and you like fishing&#8221; and it introduces you to someone just like that, who likes skiing, &#8220;to see how that stretches you, to find how you can communicate with skiers, and try to explain to a skier why you spend all that time fishing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, it might suggest someone just like you, living somewhere entirely different. &#8220;Could you actually count that person as a friend,  join a group a people who are bridging national divides? That might be more of a stretch. How could we make the web push people so that they break down barriers?&#8221; he wondered, calling for people to &#8220;make use of the web so it connects people together… and breaks down barriers more than it builds them up.&#8221; Again, Berners-Lee issued a challenge for developers to create a social network that does just that.</p>
<p>&#8220;The real challenge of web science is being able to understand when you build a little system what the big effect will be,&#8221; he added. &#8220;People don’t calculate what the big effect will be, they tend to just launch it and see what happens.&#8221;</p>
<p>So rather than try to be the next Biz Stone or Mark Zuckerberg, create a system that doesn&#8217;t just get a lot of users and make you a billionaire, but actually tries to make the world a better place. Yeah, it sounds cheesy &#8212; but hey, it&#8217;s what Berners-Lee did.</p>
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		<title>Lib Dems were wrong to gag Phorm</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/03/11/lib-dems-were-wrong-to-gag-phorm/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Collins</dc:creator>
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It’s not often I find myself defending Phorm, but at the House of Commons today the behavioural advertising service was genuinely hard done by.
Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Miller invited a hand-picked panel of internet experts and politicians to a roundtable discussion entitled: The Internet Threat: Who needs privacy when we can have relevant ads?  A [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/court-hammer.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-5273" title="court-hammer" src="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/court-hammer-150x150.jpg" alt="gavel" width="150" height="150" /></a>It’s not often I find myself defending Phorm, but at the House of Commons today the behavioural advertising service was genuinely hard done by.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Miller invited a hand-picked panel of internet experts and politicians to a roundtable discussion entitled: <em>The Internet Threat: Who needs privacy when we can have relevant ads?</em><span>  </span>A title that makes its stance on behavioural advertising pretty damned clear. And there were only two companies mentioned in the press release: BT and Phorm. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">She further loaded the dice by picking a selection of renowned Phorm critics including Sir Tim Berners-Lee, who’s spoken out against Phorm and its like in the past; Dr Richard Clayton and <span> </span>Nicholas Bohm from the Foundation for Information Policy Research, the organisation that branded BT’s secret Phorm trials “illegal”; and Jim Killock from the Open Rights Group. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Nothing wrong with that, and the credentials of the panel are beyond dispute. But for some reason, Baroness Miller wasn’t prepared to give Phorm a seat at the table, relegating its CEO Kent Ertugrul and various flunkies to the back of the room with us journalists. <a title="Why wouldn't BT defend Phorm?" href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/249383/why-wouldnt-bt-stand-up-for-phorm.html" target="_blank"><strong>BT were invited to speak, but declined</strong></a>.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Phorm eventually had its say: <span> </span>Ertugrul sat waving like the smart kid in the classroom that the teacher deliberately avoids, until finally Baroness Miller relented and let him speak, but he certainly wasn’t given the same “airtime” as the rest of the panel.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">It was, to some extent, a kangaroo court, with the defendant struggling to get a word in edgeways, while the prosecution generally repeated the same charges. It only served to invoke a degree of sympathy for Phorm – former Shadow Home Secretary David Davis even asked Ertugrul for his business card, as he clearly wanted to get both sides of the story. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The sad thing was Miller didn’t need to gag Phorm. The most interesting exchanges occurred when <a title="Berners-Lee: Phorm is like a TV camera in your room" href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/249374/bernerslee-phorm-is-like-a-tv-camera-in-your-room.html" target="_self"><strong>Berners-Lee and Ertugrul were briefly allowed to debate</strong></a> openly with one another. There were highly intelligent, articulate people on the panel: they didn’t need protection. They more than held their own when they were allowed to directly exchange views with Phorm. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Democracy is best served by an open debate. Of all people, you’d have thought the Liberal Democrats would have grasped that. </span></p>
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