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		<title>Office Web Apps: which type of documents are supported</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tim Danton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Microsoft announced its Web Apps today, and indeed we provided a full review based on several months’ experience using them. One question it’s worth answering separately, though, is exactly which type of documents are supported by each web app. So here goes.

Word Web App
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/SkyDrive.png"><img style="border-right-width: 0px; margin: 0px; display: inline; border-top-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px" title="SkyDrive" src="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/SkyDrive_thumb.png" border="0" alt="SkyDrive" width="433" height="347" /></a> Microsoft announced its Web Apps today, and indeed we provided a <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/software/358516/microsoft-office-web-apps">full review</a> based on several months’ experience using them. One question it’s worth answering separately, though, is exactly which type of documents are supported by each web app. So here goes.</p>
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<h1>Word Web App</h1>
<p>This applies to Word documents created in Word 95 or later. Note that the only limitation to file size is SkyDrive’s 50MB limit. Note that, although macros won’t be stripped out and the document will be opened, the macros themselves won’t run.</p>
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<td width="114" valign="top"><strong>File Type</strong></td>
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<td width="132" valign="top"><strong>Edit</strong></td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Open XML</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">docx</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Yes</td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Binary</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">doc</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Converted to docx</td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Macro</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">docm</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Yes</td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Other</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">dotm, dotx</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">No</td>
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<h1>Excel Web App</h1>
<p>The Excel Web App will open workbooks created in Excel 97 or later. The maximum file size is 2MB. As with the Word Web App, macros won’t run, but unlike Word if you attempt to edit the .xlsm file then you’ll be asked to create a copy of the file with the macros removed.</p>
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<td width="132" valign="top"><strong>Edit</strong></td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Full support</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">xlsx, xlsb</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Yes</td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Binary</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">xls</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes (but not on SharePoint)</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Yes, converted to xlsx (not supported by SharePoint)</td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Macro</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">xlsm</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Yes, but macros stripped</td>
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<h1>PowerPoint Web App</h1>
<p>The PowerPoint Web App will open presentations created in PowerPoint 97 or later. There’s no file size limit other than SkyDrive’s 50MB ceiling, and macros aren’t run.</p>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Open XML</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">pptx, ppsx</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Yes</td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Binary</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">ppt, pps</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">Converted to pptx/ppsx</td>
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<td width="114" valign="top">Macro</td>
<td width="114" valign="top">pptm, potm, ppam, potx, ppsm</td>
<td width="96" valign="top">Yes</td>
<td width="132" valign="top">No</td>
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<h1>OneNote Web App</h1>
<p>OneNote only supports notebooks created in OneNote 2010. And that’s it.</p>
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		<title>PowerPoint and Silverlight: a perfect match?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tom Arah</dc:creator>
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With its place at the heart of the Microsoft Office suite, PowerPoint is the overwhelmingly dominant presentation software for business. However it has a fundamental flaw &#8211; it still doesn&#8217;t offer an in-built route for efficient, cross-platform, screen-based web delivery. For a program whose whole purpose is to help users get their message over, this [...]]]></description>
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<p>With its place at the heart of the Microsoft Office suite, <a title="Microsoft PowerPoint" href="http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/powerpoint/default.aspx">PowerPoint </a>is the overwhelmingly dominant presentation software for business. However it has a fundamental flaw &#8211; it still doesn&#8217;t offer an in-built route for efficient, cross-platform, screen-based web delivery. For a program whose whole purpose is to help users get their message over, this is quite astonishing and unforgivable as we approach 2010.</p>
<p>Microsoft might not provide its own solution but there are plenty of third-party applications which fill the gap such as <a title="adobe captivate" href="http://www.adobe.com/products/captivate/">Adobe&#8217;s Captivate</a> and <a title="Adobe Presenter" href="http://www.adobe.com/products/presenter/">Presenter</a>, the bargain <a title="Flair" href="http://www.wildform.com/products/flair/">Flair </a>from WildFX and my personal favourite <a title="Articulate Presenter" href="http://www.articulate.com/">Articulate Presenter</a>. The major embarrassment for Microsoft is that these all rely on the Adobe Flash format.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an embarrassment that is made considerably worse by the fact that Microsoft is currently busily touting its own cross-platform web format, <a title="Silverlight home page" href="http://silverlight.net/">Silverlight</a>, as a direct alternative to Flash. It&#8217;s clear that PowerPoint and Silverlight should make a perfect match and native Silverlight export would certainly go a long way to explaining (if not excusing) PowerPoint&#8217;s lack of support for Flash.</p>
<p>So where is the ability to convert PowerPoint to Silverlight?</p>
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<p>I expected Silverlight export to form the central highlight of the new PowerPoint 2010, but bizarrely in the details it has released Microsoft makes no mention of it. Take a look at the <a title="PowerPoint 2010 new features" href="http://on10.net/blogs/larry/Get-a-Look-at-PowerPoint-2010/">PowerPoint 2010 video at Channel 10</a> and the <a title="PowerPoint 2010 new features" href="http://www.microsoft.com/video/en/us/details/496b666f-b3bf-481e-a6f2-b3ecf39fbefb">PowerPoint 2010 video at Microsoft Showcase</a> and you&#8217;ll see that the main focus seems to be on new transitions and effects and remote screen-to-screen broadcasting (you&#8217;ll also see that the first Channel 10 comment is from a user asking about Silverlight export).</p>
<p>This is getting actively suspicious. With its first release we were told that Silverlight&#8217;s major selling-point was its multimedia capabilities. That was over two years ago so what is the problem? If Silverlight 3.0 can&#8217;t efficiently deliver PowerPoint presentations, it&#8217;s fair to ask what can it do? More to the point, if Silverlight can&#8217;t do the job, Microsoft has an obligation to its users to provide native Flash export. As we approach 2010, efficient online delivery isn&#8217;t a niche requirement, it&#8217;s absolutely central to PowerPoint&#8217;s mission to communicate.</p>
<p>Things might not be as bad as they look. Recently I received a press release from Electric Rain announcing the launch of <a title="Convexion converter" href="http://www.erain.com/products/convexion/">Convexion, an add-on for converting PowerPoint 2007 presentations to Silverlight</a>. I haven&#8217;t been able to try it myself yet but it&#8217;s clear that, with Convexion, Silverlight-based online (and offline) delivery of presentations is indeed possible as well as WPF-based desktop delivery. Even better, when I visited the website today I saw that Microsoft has licensed the technology.</p>
<p>It looks as if Microsoft is going to provide PowerPoint to Silverlight capabilities in some format then &#8211; but I&#8217;m still left baffled and concerned.</p>
<p>To begin with, I can&#8217;t see why Microsoft should be relying on a third-party for such a core technology. Online delivery isn&#8217;t just crucial for PowerPoint, it&#8217;s even more important for Silverlight. At the moment Microsoft&#8217;s main requirement with Silverlight is to close the gap on Flash regarding player penetration (around 97% for Flash to around 33% for Silverlight according to today&#8217;s figures at <a title="Silverlight v Flash stats" href="http://www.riastats.com/">riastats.com</a>). What better way could Microsoft drive Silverlight take-up than by enabling the millions of PowerPoint users to open up their presentations to anyone with an internet connection? I really can&#8217;t believe that Microsoft has somehow failed to spot this massive opportunity.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another concern. On the Electric Rain site it provides an example of a Ray Ozzie presentation converted to Silverlight. It&#8217;s fine as a <a title="Silverlight PowerPoint presentation" href="http://www.erain.com/Products/Convexion/Services_Platform.html">proof of principle of online Silverlight delivery</a> but there&#8217;s a fundamental problem. The size of the native PPT is under 900K and the size of the XAP is over 4MB! And that&#8217;s without any videos or photos.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that this is a problem with Convexion rather than Silverlight. It certainly could be as plenty of the first PowerPoint to Flash converters wastefully rasterized slides rather than recreating them as web-efficient vectors. However it&#8217;s hardly reassuring.</p>
<p>PowerPoint should be the perfect partner for Microsoft to demonstrate Silverlight&#8217;s strengths; currently it&#8217;s only exposing the weaknesses of both.</p>
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		<title>Microsoft Office Web Apps review: first look</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry Collins</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve been looking forward to getting to grips with the Office Web Apps ever since the first, highly impressive demos at Microsoft&#8217;s Professional Developers Conference (PDC) almost a year ago.
But do the limited apps on offer in the technical preview live up to the promise of those well-polished demos? We find out.

Excel
Excel is by far [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/office-web-apps-excel.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7411" title="office-web-apps-excel" src="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/office-web-apps-excel-175x131.jpg" alt="Office Web Apps Excel" width="175" height="131" /></a>We&#8217;ve been looking forward to getting to grips with the Office Web Apps ever since the first, highly impressive demos at Microsoft&#8217;s Professional Developers Conference (PDC) almost a year ago.</p>
<p>But do the limited apps on offer in the technical preview live up to the promise of those well-polished demos? We find out.</p>
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<p><strong>Excel</strong></p>
<p>Excel is by far the most impressive of the applications currently on offer in the technical preview. That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s one of only two apps where you can currently edit documents online (the other being PowerPoint), and it&#8217;s the only one that allows more than one person to edit the document simultaneously.</p>
<p>The Excel Web App sports the same Ribbon interface as the desktop software, although in a very cut-down form. Only the Home and Insert tabs are present, and a good number of the features from those two tabs are omitted. There&#8217;s no option to generate a chart from your data, for instance, or insert a pivot table.</p>
<p>Plainly, then, Microsoft doesn&#8217;t want people creating complex spreadsheets from the free Web Apps. In fact, it practically admitted as much last week, when Microsoft&#8217;s Office Live product manager, Tim Kimber, told us that &#8220;if you want to get into [features such as] deep pivot tables, you should be doing it on your desktop PC.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say the Excel Web App doesn&#8217;t have the power to cope with complex data. The online app coped impressively with the intricate formulae and conditional formatting used in our Labs feature tables, for example. Changes made to the data were reflected in dependent fields with a delay of only a half-second or so &#8211; not quite as instantaneous as the desktop software but certainly no showstopper.<a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/office-web-apps-excel-data.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-7399" title="office-web-apps-excel-data" src="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/office-web-apps-excel-data.jpg" alt="Microsoft Office Web Apps Excel" width="462" height="261" /></a></p>
<p>The Excel Web App also dealt elegantly with features that rival Google Spreadsheet simply couldn&#8217;t cope with, such as named ranges (shown below) and displaying graphs already embedded in the imported spreadsheet (even though you can&#8217;t edit them).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/google-spreadsheet-data.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-7402" title="google-spreadsheet-data" src="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/google-spreadsheet-data.jpg" alt="Google Spreadsheet " width="462" height="286" /></a></p>
<p>Collaborative editing is equally impressive. Edits made to a spreadsheet are reflected almost instantly on the other person&#8217;s screen. There was no warning when two people attempted to edit the same field, and version control is missing, although Microsoft insists the latter will be rolled into the Web Apps eventually.</p>
<p>Also worth noting is the fact that Excel (and indeed PowerPoint) refused to allow edits on documents uploaded in the old Office formats (.xls and .ppt). Instead, the Web Apps demanded that a copy was saved in the new OOXML formats (.xlsx and .pptx) before edits could be made, which is a rather inconvenient faff. Not to mention a rather untactful reminder to upgrade to Office 2007 or 2010.</p>
<p><strong>PowerPoint </strong></p>
<p>PowerPoint is currently the only other app where it&#8217;s possible to create documents from scratch &#8211; although why you&#8217;d want to using the Spartan feature set on offer at present is anyone&#8217;s guess.</p>
<p>There are no default design templates to choose from and only a limited selection of fonts. In fact, you can&#8217;t even change the background colour of the slides, which means you&#8217;ll have to put up with boring, plain white presentations. We can only presume Microsoft will add to the feature set in later releases, or else the option to start from scratch will be effectively useless.</p>
<p>The PowerPoint Web App is much more adept when handling presentations imported from the desktop software. Editing and inserting new slides into existing presentations is simple, and the online service uses the existing template on new slides, even though only a plain template is available when you&#8217;re starting from fresh.</p>
<p>Inserting pictures is more troublesome. Although there are plenty of attractive frames and borders  available for uploaded photos, there is no way of resizing the image. Even relatively rudimentary features such as reveals and transitions are currently off the menu.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/powerpoint.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-7405" title="powerpoint" src="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/powerpoint.jpg" alt="PowerPoint" width="462" height="320" /></a></p>
<p>The full-screen Slideshow feature works reasonably well, with good clarity and no problem with lag (using Firefox 3.5, at least). All of which means the current offering is best used as an emergency backup for your presentations, should your laptop&#8217;s hard disk die on the way to a client&#8217;s, rather than anything close to a replacement for PowerPoint itself.</p>
<p><strong>Word and OneNote</strong></p>
<p>Online versions of Word and OneNote will both be available come the full release of Office 2010 next year, but for now they are both beyond any meaningful testing. Word operates in view-only mode, offering nothing more than the Save to Office Live feature that has been available in Word 2007 for over a year. One point worth noting, however, is that Microsoft currently has no plans to offer concurrent editing in Word documents, which will leave the Word Web App at a considerable disadvantage to Google Docs. In fact, collaborative editing is one of the main reasons we at <em>PC Pro </em>use the Google service.</p>
<p>OneNote isn&#8217;t working at all in the technical preview.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mixed start for the Office Web Apps. Excel shows considerable promise, coming the closest we&#8217;ve seen yet to an online app replicating the experience of desktop software. Yet, PowerPoint remains acutely crippled, and the other two apps aren&#8217;t in any usable state.</p>
<p>Although it&#8217;s clearly very early days for these online apps, the obvious fear is that Office Web Apps will only be useful for editing documents created in the desktop software, and of limited use when attempting to create documents from scratch. That may be a sensible move for a company seeking to protect its desktop software revenues, but will disappoint anyone hoping the Web Apps would provide an alternative to the regular Office upgrade cycle. Indeed, if you want to make Web Apps part of your company&#8217;s workflow &#8211; or even your own &#8211; you&#8217;ll need to upgrade to Office 2007 or 2010.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also much work to do on the sharing facilities if Office Web Apps are to become useful as a business tool. The current SkyDrive sharing is based on public folders: if you want to share a document with, say, a dozen of your colleagues you have to create a folder with the relevant sharing permissions. If you want to share another document with only one or two of those colleagues, you have to create another folder specifically for those workers. Google Docs, on the other hand, provides granular control on a document-by-document basis. Microsoft would do well to borrow a trick or two from its chief rival.</p>
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