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	<title>Comments on: Android fans: pay for your apps, please</title>
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		<title>By: Digital Publishing</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-903688</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Publishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Theres nothing like piracy or stealing..Just make your app worth paying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theres nothing like piracy or stealing..Just make your app worth paying</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-841636</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 16:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many people like myself who simply won&#039;t pay for data unless it comes with their hardware.  Is your app son wonderful that Google wants to buy it to distribute it with every Android phone?  If not, then you&#039;re gonna see some piracy. 

That said, I&#039;ve finally started buying some open source android applications.  I earn enough to buy the apps, but I hate supporting closed source developers, so I&#039;ll pirate those.  Instead, I&#039;ll make a point of buying the open source apps that look interesting, even if I&#039;ll only use them rarely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many people like myself who simply won&#8217;t pay for data unless it comes with their hardware.  Is your app son wonderful that Google wants to buy it to distribute it with every Android phone?  If not, then you&#8217;re gonna see some piracy. </p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ve finally started buying some open source android applications.  I earn enough to buy the apps, but I hate supporting closed source developers, so I&#8217;ll pirate those.  Instead, I&#8217;ll make a point of buying the open source apps that look interesting, even if I&#8217;ll only use them rarely.</p>
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		<title>By: terroare</title>
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		<dc:creator>terroare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 20:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words: Quality and less updates.
Why I have to update today to update it tomorrow ? Too many apps on the market use the users as testers, if you don&#039;t have money to pay testers, than test them yourself. Another problem are ad-ware included with the apps, I saw too many apps that have hidden notification that pops up to tell you about a game or app, and prompt you to download it, reaction ? uninstall! Put yourself in the users skin and you will see what I&#039;m talking about. And don&#039;t come with such non-sense as piracy, if the user likes your app, he will buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words: Quality and less updates.<br />
Why I have to update today to update it tomorrow ? Too many apps on the market use the users as testers, if you don&#8217;t have money to pay testers, than test them yourself. Another problem are ad-ware included with the apps, I saw too many apps that have hidden notification that pops up to tell you about a game or app, and prompt you to download it, reaction ? uninstall! Put yourself in the users skin and you will see what I&#8217;m talking about. And don&#8217;t come with such non-sense as piracy, if the user likes your app, he will buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Noni</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-833392</link>
		<dc:creator>Noni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 13:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with paying for Android apps is that, outside of Europe and North America (and a few other places), some people get no end of grief trying to pay for apps.  Some legitimate bank cards do not work in Google Play; many apps can&#039;t&#039; be paid for through Paypal and even if they could, people don&#039;t have access to it or are blocked from it. If developers have a problem with the &quot;freeloaders&quot; on Android, as was mentioned before do a limited version of the app, enough to get the user thinking &quot;wow&quot;.  As a rule I hate the ad-version apps and avoid or block them. I have some ads which are solely ad-versions, there is no way to pay for them to get rid of the apps.  Is that the developers fault or a necessary evil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with paying for Android apps is that, outside of Europe and North America (and a few other places), some people get no end of grief trying to pay for apps.  Some legitimate bank cards do not work in Google Play; many apps can&#8217;t&#8217; be paid for through Paypal and even if they could, people don&#8217;t have access to it or are blocked from it. If developers have a problem with the &#8220;freeloaders&#8221; on Android, as was mentioned before do a limited version of the app, enough to get the user thinking &#8220;wow&#8221;.  As a rule I hate the ad-version apps and avoid or block them. I have some ads which are solely ad-versions, there is no way to pay for them to get rid of the apps.  Is that the developers fault or a necessary evil?</p>
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		<title>By: dubiou</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-825031</link>
		<dc:creator>dubiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 08:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While not specifically dealing with Android apps, or indeed software in general, this article regarding the disinformation and hyperbole surrounding copyright infringement is a must-read:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/100700/riaa-sucks-at-propaganda/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While not specifically dealing with Android apps, or indeed software in general, this article regarding the disinformation and hyperbole surrounding copyright infringement is a must-read:<br />
<a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/100700/riaa-sucks-at-propaganda/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeropaid.com/news/100700/riaa-sucks-at-propaganda/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-823390</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 19:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However you dress it up, stealing is stealing. Well, in order for something to have been stolen, the owner had to have been deprived of something that he/she previous had possession of, and now does not. Does the owner still have as much money as before the &quot;theft&quot;? Yes, so no money was stolen. Does the owner still have their game software? Yes, so the game wasn&#039;t stolen. Hmmm. Seems some people need to look up the definition of theft before they start accusing people of stealing. What an undocumented user is doing is called infringement, not theft. (Notice I said &quot;undocumented&quot;, not &quot;pirate&quot;. Pirates steal (really steal) things and kill people. You can tell them by the pile of loot and dead bodies that gather around them)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However you dress it up, stealing is stealing. Well, in order for something to have been stolen, the owner had to have been deprived of something that he/she previous had possession of, and now does not. Does the owner still have as much money as before the &#8220;theft&#8221;? Yes, so no money was stolen. Does the owner still have their game software? Yes, so the game wasn&#8217;t stolen. Hmmm. Seems some people need to look up the definition of theft before they start accusing people of stealing. What an undocumented user is doing is called infringement, not theft. (Notice I said &#8220;undocumented&#8221;, not &#8220;pirate&#8221;. Pirates steal (really steal) things and kill people. You can tell them by the pile of loot and dead bodies that gather around them)</p>
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		<title>By: dubiou</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-823381</link>
		<dc:creator>dubiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The displays of blind adherence to media industry doctrine combined with expression of baseless opinion as fact and ad hominem argument leaves me convinced that everyone who insists piracy is theft is a fkwt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The displays of blind adherence to media industry doctrine combined with expression of baseless opinion as fact and ad hominem argument leaves me convinced that everyone who insists piracy is theft is a fkwt</p>
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		<title>By: Shed_Dweller</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-823057</link>
		<dc:creator>Shed_Dweller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 07:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After spending a couple of hours last night trying to comply with ubisofts DRM, I decided no game is worth that much stuffing about and having to blow holes in my firewall.

I don&#039;t want to play online and have some twit ruin what I see as light hearted entertainment.  I just wanted to play the game I bought in the shop.

I will be uninstalling it tonight along with all of ubisofts and valves rubish.  I will also close the holes in my fire wall and go looking for the DRM free pirated version.  If I can find it easily and if it comes up as free of malware I may play it.

No software that does not provide an income stream for me is worth any more of my time and effort than that. Don&#039;t bother trying to argue with what I feel my time is worth. This kind of rubbish is just not worth it to me.

If a developer/company creats something for others to use and then makes it difficult to get/install/use/pay for/live with/use for its intended purpose
why should should I reward them.
To use a car analogy, you wouldn&#039;t accept buying a car only to find the doors were welded shut to fix a broken hinge.
There would be an outcry, the goverment regulators would intervene and it would be replaced with a car that has a better hinge design and working doors.
In my opinion, from what I have seen: Good indie developers are generally appauled that there is a problem with their creation or the users expirience with their creation and fix it ASAP.  
However, continueing the car analogy, companies like ubisoft insist you pay for the faulty car and will sue you if they find you trying to see if the doors work before you buy it.
They will then insist on pulling you over whenever you try to leave your driveway to make sure you are the original purchaser of the car and follow you everywhere you go to make sure you&#039;re only using it on the approved streets, plastering your windshield with ads for their other models whenever you stop at the lights, while selling your address and driving habits to the car accessory companies.
Again, why should I reward this?

Your milage may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After spending a couple of hours last night trying to comply with ubisofts DRM, I decided no game is worth that much stuffing about and having to blow holes in my firewall.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to play online and have some twit ruin what I see as light hearted entertainment.  I just wanted to play the game I bought in the shop.</p>
<p>I will be uninstalling it tonight along with all of ubisofts and valves rubish.  I will also close the holes in my fire wall and go looking for the DRM free pirated version.  If I can find it easily and if it comes up as free of malware I may play it.</p>
<p>No software that does not provide an income stream for me is worth any more of my time and effort than that. Don&#8217;t bother trying to argue with what I feel my time is worth. This kind of rubbish is just not worth it to me.</p>
<p>If a developer/company creats something for others to use and then makes it difficult to get/install/use/pay for/live with/use for its intended purpose<br />
why should should I reward them.<br />
To use a car analogy, you wouldn&#8217;t accept buying a car only to find the doors were welded shut to fix a broken hinge.<br />
There would be an outcry, the goverment regulators would intervene and it would be replaced with a car that has a better hinge design and working doors.<br />
In my opinion, from what I have seen: Good indie developers are generally appauled that there is a problem with their creation or the users expirience with their creation and fix it ASAP.<br />
However, continueing the car analogy, companies like ubisoft insist you pay for the faulty car and will sue you if they find you trying to see if the doors work before you buy it.<br />
They will then insist on pulling you over whenever you try to leave your driveway to make sure you are the original purchaser of the car and follow you everywhere you go to make sure you&#8217;re only using it on the approved streets, plastering your windshield with ads for their other models whenever you stop at the lights, while selling your address and driving habits to the car accessory companies.<br />
Again, why should I reward this?</p>
<p>Your milage may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidW</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-823051</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 06:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TearsTheWingsOffAngels: But murdering, that’s taking bread out of the mouths of the software developer’s kids. Whatever you think it ought to be called, it’s theft.

I hope you get irony. 
Murdering is murdering, theft is theft and piracy is piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TearsTheWingsOffAngels: But murdering, that’s taking bread out of the mouths of the software developer’s kids. Whatever you think it ought to be called, it’s theft.</p>
<p>I hope you get irony.<br />
Murdering is murdering, theft is theft and piracy is piracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Pemberton</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2012/04/27/android-fans-pay-for-your-apps-please/comment-page-2/#comment-822898</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Pemberton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 00:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JakeB - you say that copying is not theft because it does not deprive someone the use of something because you take it, but it does - it deprives them of the remuneration they should reasonably be able to expect for their work.  If you&#039;re not comfortable with the word theft (because of an argument based on semantics) then let&#039;s try slavery - that&#039;s what we call demanding that people work for no remuneration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JakeB &#8211; you say that copying is not theft because it does not deprive someone the use of something because you take it, but it does &#8211; it deprives them of the remuneration they should reasonably be able to expect for their work.  If you&#8217;re not comfortable with the word theft (because of an argument based on semantics) then let&#8217;s try slavery &#8211; that&#8217;s what we call demanding that people work for no remuneration.</p>
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