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Posted on September 15th, 2011 by David Bayon

Windows 8 on a laptop: first look

All the talk so far has centred around the wonderful new Metro UI, and how it could well be the nicest touch interface yet – but what of the vast majority of PCs and laptops that don’t have a touchscreen? Does Windows 8 relegate them to an afterthought, or can you carry on with mouse and keyboard as if touch never existed? To find out, I installed the developer preview on a 15in Core i5 laptop and plugged in a mouse.

Windows 8: Metro UI

The Metro UI

First things first, Metro is your main entry point whatever your hardware – and that’s going to annoy a lot of people. It’s large, it’s almost childlike in its design, and it’s so obviously meant for tablets that it feels slightly insulting to anyone who’s comfortable with the ins and outs of the Windows environment.

The concept of full-screen-only apps makes little sense for any device above tablet size, as anyone who works with Outlook, Word, Tweetdeck and Chrome permanently open will quickly realise. You can split apps so that one occupies two-thirds of the screen, but that’s not particularly helpful on larger screens. The desktop itself is technically an app, so you can have that occupy two-thirds with several traditional windows within it. It’s not something I found useful, though.

Windows 8: two-thirds

Metro is a bit iffy to navigate with a mouse. While the live previews in larger tiles are great (giving quick access to tweets, emails and the like – and they can be put on your lock screen too), the icons themselves are big and boxy on a 15in screen, and finding an application to launch manually – even once you’ve dragged them all into related groups of tiles – means much scrolling left and right.

Of course, that’s not the quickest way to launch an application from an idle desktop. In Windows 7 I simply press the Windows key and start typing the name, and the good news is you can still do that here – the difference is no Start menu appears. Or more accurately, the Metro UI is the Start menu, and a press of the Windows key (or a click of the now pretty useless bottom-left Start button) always takes you to that grid. If you’re fast you can ping the full-screen Metro interface up, type the app name and be back on the desktop again in a second, which begs the question why it needs to appear at all when the old, less graphically demanding and space-intensive system worked so well.

The closest thing to a traditional Start menu on the desktop arrives if you instead hover over the Start button. There you get a few menu options, along with a different way in to that search function, which here attempts to search within the currently active app. If that’s not where you want to search – and it usually won’t be – you pretty much have to end up with the full-screen Metro search taking over again. It needs work.

Windows 8: start menu

Changing your ways

As you’ll quickly discover, if you want to spend the majority of your time in the traditional desktop, you’re going to have to get used to doing things differently. More specifically, you’ll want to make extensive use of your desktop and taskbar. As we’ve seen, any application not pinned to one of those two locations is tough to launch without returning to the Metro UI in some form. Whether you pile your desktop high with shortcuts will largely depend on how annoying you find that big green grid on a daily basis.

Windows 8: searchAt every opportunity, Windows 8 reminds you that Metro is its new baby: plugging in a USB stick brings up a green tile over the desktop, and further settings are all laid out in the Metro style. Selecting any of the menu options on that previously mentioned mini Start menu produces a vertical Metro bar to the right of the desktop. (Don’t even get us started on why a button in the bottom-left opens a menu on the far right, another design decision made seemingly without the mouse in mind).

All the talk from the launch event has been from people using Windows 8 on tablets, so the quick gestures are getting a lot of love in LA. Back in the real world of PCs and laptops, you can hover over the left edge of the screen to see the last application you had open, and either drag it out to switch to it or right-click to snap it to the right-edge column. It works okay, but other gestures just don’t translate: swiping upwards to unlock, for example, is just horrible with a mouse. Thankfully, a press of the keyboard’s up cursor does the same job, and as far as I can tell most existing keyboard shortcuts still work.


Whatever you think of Metro, there are also several smaller changes that really do make a difference on a PC or laptop.

Windows 8: task manager

The new Task Manager is excellent, keeping the existing performance monitoring tools but adding heatmapping (think Excel’s conditional formatting) so you can instantly see which processes are using resources, and several graphs, including live wireless throughput. It adds detailed tabs for app history and user activity, and finally brings the Startup options of msconfig into a much more accessible place. Crapware can now easily be prevented from starting up with Windows.

Explorer windows bring back the Up button they’ve been sorely lacking, and while a lot of people hate the ribbon interface I’m not one of them. The file transfer dialog has been improved, with a dynamic graph now showing the transfer speed second by second, and an estimation of time remaining. It rolls multiple transfer jobs into one window too, which is a vast improvement on having them stacked up.

Windows 8: file transfer

Finally, boot and resume times are excellent, at least on this test laptop. About a year old, and with nothing fancier than a 320GB mechanical hard disk inside, it boots to the lock screen (if you’ve set a password) in around 13 seconds, and to a ready-to-go Windows 8 in just under 19 seconds. Strangely, the only way to power the laptop down appears to be to go into the Power option in the Settings menu; presumably, Microsoft is hoping laptop users will simply close the lid and make use of the improved sleep mode.

Windows 8: the tablet OS

The biggest realisation from a couple of days with Windows 8 on a laptop is that if you’re not willing to throw yourself into the Metro interface with gusto, you’re really not going to see the kind of changes to the OS that everyone else will. Those who just want Windows 7 but better are going to find that, at least behind the fancy new UI, it doesn’t feel a whole lot different.

The desktop is still there, your existing applications can still be run, and most of the noticeable upgrades are to background elements of the environment. We’ve no doubt prettying up the Control Panel and various other tools is long overdue, but what Windows 8 seems most intent on is changing your ways to suit the direction Microsoft is taking. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but it’s certain to split opinion among long-time Windows users.

This is a very early build and I’m well aware that I’ve not spent nearly enough time with it to make a proper judgement. But it’s no surprise that Microsoft installed Windows 8 on a tablet to give to attendees of its Build conference, as that’s clearly where it’s more at home.

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42 Responses to “ Windows 8 on a laptop: first look ”

  1. jeff Granger Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 3:39 pm

    “press the Windows key and start typing the name”

    Who on earth does that? I don’t want to TYPE anything. I want to point and click as much as possible! Even on a PC.

  2. Simon Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    I think the Metro UI is going to cause some major issues in the corporate environment, maybe Microsoft will bow to pressure and provide a standard desktop as default in Windows 8 SP 1, or the European Competition Commision will get their knickers in a twist because some 3rd party desktop provider won’t have their app as an available alternative, like the Internet Exoplorer debacle.

    On the flip side its good to see Microsoft taking an Apple stance of saying this is the way you will work with Windows, not we will make Windows work around you.

  3. Gianmarco Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    can anybody say Vista?

  4. samhunt Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    @ jeff Granger
    Actually…a lot of people do that. In Windows 7, many users I know just hit the windows key to bring up the start menu, type three or four letters, and let Windows find the app. Its simple. the Metro UI works the same way, only it presents you with even MORE apps than the old Start menu did, so you can just click away without searching. Major win.

  5. David Wright Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    @Jess Granger

    Who wants to use a mouse! I press the Windows key and type the first couple of characters of the app I want to start 95% of the time.

    For a start, being a trained typist, I can start an application with the keyboard a darned sight faster than with a mouse. Also, I don’t have to try and remember in which folder a program is located, just start typing the name and basta!

    That was one of the major things in Vista and 7, that made it so much better than XP.

  6. Dan Lewis Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    “Strangely, the only way to power the laptop down appears to be to go into the Power option in the Settings menu; presumably, Microsoft is hoping laptop users will simply close the lid and make use of the improved sleep mode.”

    I think this is a good (and bold! ;-) move. Remember the amount of stick MS got about the whole Vista shutdown menu ( In this day and age, users shouldn’t have to worry about “rebooting” or “shutting down” their devices. How often do they do these things on a phone or iPad for instance? Just close the lid and your done…

  7. David Wright Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 4:37 pm

    I really like Metro on the WP7 platform. But on my desktop, I work with Tweetdeck, Outlook, Word and Firefox split across two screens.

    For a dual 24″ display set-up, it doesn’t seem to make much sense.

    Have you tried running the laptop dual-head with an external monitor?

    I started downloading the developer preview this morning, so I’ll give it a whirl, on my iMac, when I get home…

  8. DWR Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    @Simon – true, I didn’t see the ECC losing sleep over Safari!

    Apple can design the hardware and software together and benefit from the stability and efficiency that brings. The fact that Windows runs (at all) across all the manufacturers (with their graphics cards, mice, displays, etc) is a minor miracle.

    I think many of us who comment on PCPro forget that the average user wants something that WORKS. If it can work and look good, all the better. My father knows precisely nothing about computers. He just wants something that wakes up, allows him to check email and switches off again. He has an iMac. He recently connected an external hard drive to use as a backup. Mac OS X automatically recognised it, installed it and then asked him if he would like to use it with Time Machine for backups. He just had a couple of clicks and then it backed up 40GB of music, video and documents. Absolutely no thought required.

    As Windows 8 sprawls across platforms as well as manufacturers, it’s going to be a huge challenge to equal the “Apple experience”.

    That said, the pictures look good and we all adapted to have a “start menu” back in the day. This looks good, as long as it doesn’t rob those of us who actually value getting our hands dirty under the hood of the operating system.

    (And no, I don’t want to use Linux. Sorry.)


  9. David Bayon Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    David Wright: It’s actually better on multiple monitors. If you extend the desktop, the Metro UI (and its full-screen apps) only appear on your first screen, so you could feasibly have your important windows open and uninterrupted on your second screen. Additional screens also replace the Start button with a quick button to become the primary display, which is neat.

  10. Darwin Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Looks like c**p.

  11. nicl Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    To be honest, I’m really impressed that Microsoft is taking this massive gamble/change in direction.

    And to me the UI looks fresh and modern, and introduces to pcs/laptops the great typography of Windows Phone 7.

    People forget that the only reason Windows works at the moment is because we are all so familiar with it. But Metro looks much more intuitive and straightforward. And crucially, it looks like it might actually be fun(!).

    Also, full-screen apps/programs by default is an massive improvement.

  12. PSilva Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Installed it on my pc last night. It DOESN’T work. I spent at least eight hours now with it and it really really needs a re-thinking from MS. Pc’s are not dead, tablets are simple gadgets (for the moment) and building a PC OS around tablet usage is NOT going to work. At all. This is not a matter of learning a new “approach” to how to use the UI, it just takes the wrong path for most of PC users. Hard work ahead for MS if they want to launch 8 anytime soon. Of course the cynics can argue that this all part of a strategy aimed at users being forced to buy thouchscreen tech, but that will fail – vertical screens on a desk are not touch friendly ergonomically and we are not yet at a “minority Report” stage. My guess is they will have a solid customer base with 7 for the foreseeable future and only a few will be buying 8.

  13. Sean Palmer Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    Can’t you just tap the power button on your laptop to shut it down?

  14. Andrew Anthony Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    This is where Microsoft should make a clear distinction between ‘Home’ and ‘Professional’ editions of Windows. Stick all the Fisher Price touchy-feely crap on the ‘Home’ systems and let professionals and companies boot to the standard desktop by default. How many large companies will want to churn out 500-page documents by prodding a touch-screen anyway?

  15. Andrew Pepper Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    As the “legacy” desktop is an application on W8, can you not place it as a startup application?

  16. MetalMonkey Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Lets look at the mainstream home & office operating systems. I don’t count NT4 or 2000, because apart from techies – they didn’t really make it into the home.

    Win95 – Fail
    Win98 – Good
    WinMe – Fail
    XP – Good
    Vista – Fail
    Win 7 – Good
    Win 8 – ?

    I wonder what Windows 8 will be.

    I have tried Win 8 for 5 minutes, then got bored.

    The square blocks – are hideous on a PC.

    The PC era is NOT coming to an end no matter how much the media add to the hype.

    What about corporate? Laptops over desktops. Oh please.

    What about touch typists, small business’, PC gaming, programmers / developers.

    What about schools? Yeah – make a laptop / tablet that can survive an hour with a wild animal, bounces when thrown and lasts 8 hours before needing a charge then maybe it’ll be ready for a school.

    Tablets are a gadget and will never become mainstream.

    Microsoft – you only just won us back with Windows 7 after delay after delay and then knocking together Vista in 25 minutes. Don’t screw it up again.

  17. HairyFool Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    I am pleased that Microsoft are looking in another direction with the UI and hope that they et somewhere with it. However as has been pointed out there are many environments that will have difficulties migrating and not be able to provide the hardware to suit, the touch screen input being one issue. They have had great difficulty moving corporate users off of XP, I only hope they will continue to support the classic desktop user interface for some time to come. The average user will certainly not cope with a virtualised Win7

  18. Loribot Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Its great that MS are looking at new user interfaces but they keep trying to put every device in one box and it work. Different methods of interacting require different interfaces as MS found out with early tablet and windows phone releases, it seems they may not have learnt their lessons.
    Win 8 will fail and Win 9 will be everything win 8 should have been which is kind of what MS do so well.

  19. Conor Says:
    September 15th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    So, once one discounts the Metro as nothing but an annoyance for anything other than a tablet one is left with a cool new Task Manager. Can’t wait.

  20. Craig Says:
    September 16th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Having now got a VM up and running I find myself appalled by how there is no thought towards traditional desktop use.

    When I originally saw the metro interface I thought it looked interested, but now having used it I can see the compromises they have put in place to get it. They have killed Windows as we know it.

    The start menu in Windows 7 is the best iteration of that yet, yet they have removed it. Starting an application that wasn’t pinned meant hitting start and F to launch a search sidebar, then typing, then hitting enter, then selecting applications as that is not selected by default and finally clicking on the application.

    In short, I will not be moving my PC over to this in it’s current state, there are too many compromises for good work-flow for the few benefits.

    If I get a tablet, fine, yes, great, but sod it for a desktop.

  21. Haydn Says:
    September 16th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I installed this on my NC10 Netbook and none of the metro apps worked on it as they don’t work below 1024×768 resolution. Full screen adapted apps on a netbook would be wonderful given the lack of screen space but unless MS plan to let the apps work on the lower resolution screen they essentially turning their back on a whole sector of PC users.

  22. Tim Says:
    September 16th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Could it be that Microsoft has learned from the reluctance of users to upgrade from Windows XP?

    Now that Windows 7 has a wide spread, they can probably rest assured that most corporate IT departments will be happy to continue using Windows 7 for the foreseeable future.

    Hence they can do what they like with Windows 8, as business users won’t be upgrading until Windows 10 reaches SP2 status (and many will still be using XP even then).

  23. Stu Says:
    September 16th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    OK, bets on whether the “only way is Metro” thing lasts before they “listen to their customers” and make it optional for corporate desktops.

    Nice to see Mark Russinovitch’s influence has impacted the core tools though.

  24. Damian Says:
    September 16th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    “means much scrolling left and right.”

    Hole the Ctrl key and press either the left or right arrow key. Instant movement between tile screens

  25. David Says:
    September 16th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    I’ve downloaded it and have been playing with it in a virtual machine, and I can only say what a horrible, horrible mess it is! The whole concept might be alright for tablets and phones, but it’s completely unsuitable for a desktop PC and it’s taken me ages to work out how to do simple things, which are now needlessly complicated. I support over a hundred users, and the idea of trying to teach them all how to use this mess is frankly not appealing! Microsoft – you need to go back to the drawing board and devise one set of SKUs for phones and tablets, and another for desktop / laptop computers. You cannot successfuly use the same for both.

  26. Sam Says:
    September 17th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Can we have the new task bar and control panel for Win7 SP2 please. That will keep me happy until Win9 comes out after address everything that is wrong about Metro for us traditional desktop users.

    Glad to know I will not be forking out £100+ for a new O/S for the foreseeable future

  27. Mark Bright Says:
    September 17th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Try ‘Copper’ on a PC.. all well and good till it insista that you try the ‘Pinch to Zoom’ feature before continuing… not sure how you do that with a mouse!

  28. steven brooks Says:
    September 19th, 2011 at 2:33 pm

    Has anyone actually thought that this might just be aimed at tablets, and tablets only. Obviously this will never work in a corporate enviroment but for tablets and phones it’s perfect and it’s doing everything that people have winged and moaned about for years. When microsoft brought out xp on the old fashioned tablets it was unusable, you had a little stylus (which rarely worked) and it was pointless. The same with the mobile os, the heart of them was always desktop windows which never worked on any other platform except desktop/laptops. Now were given a lovely phone Ui which has been made from the ground up for touch and that has now flowed over to tablets. I mean do you really want the windows desktop with touch??? Cmon, it’s pretty obvious that windows 9 will be desktop based and won’t be out just yet, this is Microsofts final stab at the touch market and it look’s like they’ve left the desktop in for all the moaners! I say give it a chance on what it was meant for and carry on using Win7 on a desktop until Win9 is released.

  29. David Says:
    September 19th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Win8 Metro is dead in the water for a corporate environment. Let’s hope MS’s corporate customers bang some heads together, and style does not triumph over substance, otherwise Ubuntu here we come…..

  30. Jeff Dickey Says:
    September 22nd, 2011 at 6:49 am

    @David (#29): If you think Metro is dead in the water, you’ll hate Ubuntu; the current release has jumped the shark in much the same way Windows 8 has. You’ll probably be more interested in Mint (innovating from a pre-shark (or -Natty) Ubuntu, or in a corporate environment, openSUSE. GNOME 3 and Ubuntu Unity are the fellow-travellers with Metro for “experimental UI foisted off as production-ready”, and not a few Ubuntu users are jumping ship. Of course, that’s easier to do in an OS that lets you pick and choose rather than “one size (in some marketroid’s dreams) fits all”, but I digress.

  31. Pete Smith Says:
    September 22nd, 2011 at 9:49 am

    As I understand there is a registry key that turns off the Metro interface and reverts back to Windowss 7 style as per:
    Surely Microsoft will just make this registry change an option when you first install a PC so you can have a Metro interface, obviously better for touch screen devices, or Windows 7 style more suitable for traditional desktop use.

  32. G_Thomas Says:
    September 22nd, 2011 at 11:47 am

    There is a very good reason that Windows 8 “Developer Preview” (Win 8 DE) is demonstrated on a tablet – and it’s not because Microsoft wants to shove the Metro interface down everybody’s throats.

    It’s called a Developer Preview – because what MS wants to do is to attract developers who have the “tablet = iPad” bug (or the “we like Android better than iPad”, brigade) – MS needs to gain traction and get ‘apps’ developed for the tablet market, ready for launch of Windows 8.

    People seem to forget that Windows XP/Vista/7 are the Windows Kernel with a shell on top (a ‘distro’ if you like) – Vista and Windows Server 2008 have the same Kernel – Win7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 have the same Kernel with different options (call those ‘packages’ if you prefer). … Google for “Windows 7 Windows Server 2008 R2 kernel changes” for the PPTX file and view the Mark Russinovich video here

    With Win 7 and Win Server 2008 R2 there are the shells for ‘PowerShell’ (the command shell interface) and ‘Explorer’ (the UI shell).

    The default UI shell on XP/Vista/7 is called Explorer. At the moment Win 8 DE is showing off the new ‘Metro’ shell but there is an awful lot more underneath that in the Win 8 Kernel (which I wouldn’t be surprised to also be the Windows ‘2008 R3’ kernel).

    As already reported above, you can turn off the Metro shell and see a more traditional ‘Explorer’ shell. So I don’t see any problem – if you don’t have a touch screen interface, then change the registry to turn off the Metro shell… wait a week or so and somebody is bound to post a .reg file to turn it on and off again (or a PowerShell Script).

  33. dagnamit Says:
    September 22nd, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    The interesting thing is that this iteration was pushed out so fast that i don’t see corporates leaving Windows 7 for it, however i also get the feeling that the corporate environment won’t *need* to. This is purely for new machines and tablets, and tablets haven’t made significant inroads into many companies yet. for those that do, then they have windows 8.

    I can only think of this as a win-win situation for the company. Win7 is fine, and win8 was a little early for their traditional full-on refresh anyway, isn’t it?

  34. Chris Says:
    September 23rd, 2011 at 8:44 am

    I think that it is a real shame that Windows are going down this route. It seems that the metro theme is one big (Apple-style) gimmick. Although it is possible to turn off the theme and go back to a windows 7 desktop theme, the Metro theme appears to be its selling point. I want to hear less about aesthetics, and more about improvements made to the OS (if there are any substantial ones).

  35. Anthony Hunt Says:
    September 23rd, 2011 at 11:08 am

    I loaded the Developer preview on my tablet PC and it is horrible! The pointer doesn’t trigger the mouse moves, so I have to open back to the keyboard/touchpad to move the mouse cursor to the left or bottom to switch tasks or open the start menu.
    Some Windows programs simply won’t pin to the Metro UI – for no discernible reason!
    You can’t “swish” left and right, like iOS, there’s a SCROLL BAR at the bottom of the Metro UI for left & right movement.
    It’s not a usable OS currently and I don’t like the way it is going.
    Wait for Windows 9 I guess…

  36. Roberttrebor Says:
    September 25th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    Why don’t they just say this:-

    Windows 8 – the Tablet OS

    (anything else at your peril)

  37. Roberttrebor Says:
    September 25th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    I tested XP, Vista & 7.
    Nothing I have read so far makes want to even try 8. I dont use a tablet, cant see the point of paying for something that costs more than a laptop, but without the functions or storage.
    The road test for a week in PCPRO put paid to any ideas of that.
    The only good thing is it has pushed down the price of a decent laptop i3 or i5 4gb meory 500gb HD & dedicated graphic for under £400, with a 15.6 ” or even a 17.3″ screen, if you shop around for the bargains.

  38. Paul Says:
    October 6th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Installed on P4 at 3.2GHz with 3Gb ram on old HD as additional drive on W7 Ultimate system. No probs whatsoever and detected W7 to give me dual-boot menu. Played for 30 minutes and found that I can do anything I want at speed, I think its ground breaking and built for the cloud that’s coming soon. Customisation is the key, and all seems intuitive. I hate, detest and loath touch screens of any form but may be convinced soon. I run all windows systems as I troubleshoot for a living, my main PC is powered by Linux Mint and although its lightning fast it looks positively Ark-Like compared to W8 developer. Bring it on now!!!

  39. dirtbag Says:
    December 26th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    total garbage just like vista and win7 no wait its even worse.

    command line is probably even more broken then in the other versions of windows.
    can’t let people control their computers god no cant have that.
    wait whats this cant go full screen with command line good one.

    win7 has no way to search for files.
    im sorry what did you say win7 douse ? grate type in *.dll in your search ..their should only be 2 dll files in the folder in question so it shouldn’t be hard to find the file in question at the specified path i gave you, good luck finding S**T on a 10000gig file server.

    can it install on fat32 ? guess not,can it format fat 64bit doubt it,can i format fat32 past the moron limit of 32gigs “real world limit 2000+ gigs”
    can it deal with 256 color apps ? doubt it.

    can it run older apps seeing as ms has all the sorcecode for older windows and dos ? dout it.

    compatibility mode is a bad joke just like all the rest of the windows version im guessing.

    applications that need to be uninstalled before using the new version of windows
    ms player {spyware}

    ms defender {useless}

    ms internet explorer {garbage\spyware app}

    ms firewall {trash firewall that lets ms spyware chat with their servers}

    msn live {shares all your info with anyone by default unless you say different and is more or less spyware in any case.

    any cd\dvd burning app {drm crap\id tagging}

    any compression app {ill use my own app ty very much}

    windows explorer, is it still part of win8 or something even better to replace it like universal explorer ? let me guess it was removed.

    and don’t get my started about big bother cloud vomit.

    ps MS knowing anything more then what your ip is with out manual consent from any app in windows should be considered spyware and legally actionable and im waiting for the day were MS gets what coming in a anti trust case. funny that for whatever reason they didn’t get spanked in the us,im glad they did in the UK even if 300mill is like lose change for MS.

    don’t you see what their doing ? their turning windows in to something were only they have the right to tell you how it is and you the computer user are not allowed to know what is were in your computer,and everything you do on your computer is loged on Micro $oft servers.

    every newer version of windows trys to lower your IQ even more then the last one as to how a computer works and how much controle you have over your computer.
    i can’t wait for windows 9 xbox edition that no longer allows you to use a mouse or keyboard.

    oo and btw windows loves to hide files on you rootkit stile and yes i started with apple2 computers.

    fun tip of the day for windows7 on advanced 10 times and know what you see ? the same option menu as in win95

    wtf win95 is more advanced and allows you to control your pc more then win7 ? wtf going on O_o ?

    and yes i know 95% of computer users know little about whats going on .that doesn’t mean MS has the right to try and kill the computer intellectuals of the world and that’s all that’s bin going on for the most part starting from dos 6.22.
    sadly most of you are too stupid to see it.

  40. David Says:
    January 11th, 2012 at 8:48 am

    In a world where people can choose any number of different interfaces, many free, Windows still does very very well.

    If Windows changes so much that people say, well if I am going to learn a new interface I might as well look at ALL the options, people might prefer options X,Y or Z.

    Large touch screens maybe cheap soon but I doubt many will rush out and replace perfectly working large flat monitors – it won’t happen at work and I doubt it will happen at home quickly.

    I would prefer there to be a “toggle” between “Touch” and “Non-Touch” views with the preferences stored against each user.

    Those who like the brave new world and have a touch screen could use the “touch” option and others could use the “non-touch”.

    Regardless of a new look for Windows the millions of apps ( aka windows programs ) are not going to change over night, if ever, so going “touch” for the operating system and ending up in non-touch programms is going to upset people.

  41. Wayne Rohrlach Says:
    March 18th, 2012 at 1:49 am

    So long as it is 100% backward compatable for all programs,games,etc with no bitching and whining I would concider upgrade don’t like the chunky icons this is the mainreason I have gone to android instead of windows phone basically I find the win phone ugly and want my deck top pics

  42. mr chips Says:
    March 27th, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    It looks like the old fashioned NT or windows 95 /98 set up, im not liking it. To me it says hey we have just gone back in time with our graphics for the UI. I thought they would of made it more of glide UI rather than keep going with the click and type for the average customer to up one on the competion. I stil find Windows Xp the best and most stable OS they did, and it is a shame they got rid of it so quickly. I found xp more easy to get on with and esaier to fix, work with on solutions.


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