Posted on March 1st, 2011 by Stewart Mitchell
What goes on in that computer repair shop?
Ever wondered what happens to your PC when it goes in for repair? Us too. We’ve heard a few cheeky tales, and smart workarounds that computer repairers have employed to get a computer back up and running, but there must be many more, either kosher or not.
If you are a repair technician, we’d like to hear from you in confidence about how you’ve fixed PCs in ways that you’d perhaps rather keep from your customers – even if they worked a treat.
If you’ve used a repair shop or dial-a-guy, have you noticed that components they were supposed to have replaced have simply been reinstalled or replaced with second-hand parts?
Has a computer repair shop or professional misdiagnosed a fault or suggested unnecessary work that inflates the price of the job? Ever, perhaps, bought a new hard drive only to find it full of someone else’s data already?
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March 1st, 2011 at 5:41 pm
I often fix peoples computers and sometimes let them watch. I feel I have nothing to hide, however, some would probably be a bit touchy about how I handle their machines. As I know computers, I know how easy it is to be led astray! For example, I know nothing about cars, and a mechanic could be cheeky to me, which I wouldn’t like.
March 2nd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
I look forward to reading the article which I presume will be based on this research.
Whilst I have never fixed computers for money, I often see what the “fixers” do to friend’s machines, and I’m apalled.
I don’t know if it’s technical incompetence, laziness, or greed, but “unprofessional” would be far too mild an epiphet.
March 2nd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I’ve been fixing computers for a number of years for a bit of extra money, but nowadays I don;t really bother anymore.
A computer packed with viruses and spyware could take anything up to 6 hours to fix by the time you pick it up, diagnosis it, repair and leave it back.
And I’d probably only ask for £25. Simply couldn’t be bothered with the hassle.
March 2nd, 2011 at 3:53 pm
I often fix pc’s in my local community. I be as honest and upfront as possible whilst not ripping customers off.I really enjoy getting something working again and take pride in my work. I have a degree in electronics and have been making a small amount of money fixing things from pc’s to arials!
March 2nd, 2011 at 8:40 pm
We occasionally repair clients computers for them. We have a rule that we only work on business computers, not anything used by the client’s children.
As Ally says, it can take 6 hours to give a machine a full service, although much of that is waiting time, which we don’t charge for.
Often, all the client needs is education on how to do a few basic procedures themselves. It saves them money; even though we cap our repair charges, after a few instances of virus infections our cost would outweigh the price of a new computer.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 am
Where I live in warwickshire, near the former teddy bear museam there is a one man repairer.
I gave them my laptop that had simply needed a keyboard because of a few drops of water. I put £10 on top of the asked sum to allow next day delivery of what I believed would be a genuine new one.
Sadly when it came back there where a number of deep scratches on the replacement key board that was clearly a knock off. I paid to keep the peace.
Once home I had a look around the net, all that was needed was to remove a few easy to get at screws. A genuine keyboard was sirpriseingly cheap by comparison
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:36 am
I have repaired computers for a number of years be fore that other electronic equipment. I love the work and it has paid me well for many years. I have always treated customers fairly and never over charged.
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
I’m assuming we won’t get any comments from a well known high street superstore and their repair people. The amount that bring their machines to me after paying for a ‘health check’ to find they’re still riddled with virus, faulty parts, haven’t even run a defrag, etc.
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:16 am
Think my favorite repair has to be my friends gpu, an old x850, he was trying to install a new extractor in his case and managed to damage the gpu, on inspection i found he had knocked a resistor off the board. being unemployed he begged me to try and repair it for free, after hours of searching through old bits we finally found an appropriate resistor but, lacking proper soldering equipment we had to resort to super glue, and suprisingly the machine carried on for another 9 months before the card finally burnt out.
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
Repairs account for half my income at present, I’ve been repairing for years, but the recession here in Ireland has increased the level of people seeking repairs rather than throwing away and buying new.
When pricing repairs for clients I usually offer a price for refurbished work or new parts if both options are available. It’s up to the customer which they choose.
Typically this would be for Screens, expansion cards, graphics cards, memory etc.
Other parts I tend to offer only a new price for such as HDD’s and Laptop Keyboards or cooling fans.
This passes the choice to the customer and can save money and time where we live as parts can take up to a week to reach us in Ireland.
One of the last wet damaged laptops I repaired was for a local journalist who watched me complete the entire process on a laptop only a few months old. -his beloved workhorse.
I must say being watched during the repair was fun, once I had removed the fragile plastics around the Top shell to access the Keyboard screws.
These pieces of plastic seem to be getting thinner and weaker with every generation of laptop and make even a seasoned hand feel nervous.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
I think the only real lie we tell our customers is “Don’t worry – it’s probably not your fault it went wrong” while we’re internally thinking “Although it would have been a good idea to keep backups, let the anti-virus update and not click on that spam email link. Again.” People don’t like being told they’re stupid or that they acted stupidly.
An exception to this was the chap who brought in his PC that he cleaned up himself. With a hoover. Wouldn’t have been so bad if he hadn’t also removed the CPU/Fan, washed them, stuck them back in at 90′, forcing the fan clip down to hold it in place. Astonishingly it survived after a bit of TLC, only for the client to be openly very doubtful about that amount of time we spent on it which necessitated us explaining precisely how dim he had been.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Letting people (or their kids) see inside the machine is a great learning experience. After all, you know how to put it together again! Plus the owner gets the reassurance that you’re not pulling a fast one and actually doing what you say you’re doing!
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
I recovered a guys 500 photos he had deleted from his iPod, plus another 300 that were not his. His original iPod was DOA and he thought it had been swapped for a new one. Obviously not!
I once put too long screws in a laptop cover. Oops. It did not break through but left two neat little bumps. They looked pretty good so I did not mention it.
Another gave me their old dead Samsung monitor as they were going to throw it out. I found I had two weeks of a 3 year warranty so got it replaced for free. I agonised over telling the guy but didn’t. The Samsung replacement was a bit scruffy, obviously not new.
A dim customer could not get her new PC from Comet to work. Comet were no use so she called me. Turned out Comet had sold her a secondhand machine, used to belong to a “Keith” who had even put on a Bios password. Comet just changed it. Six months later Comets neighbour Currys did something very similar to another of my customers. You can’t win!
March 4th, 2011 at 7:33 am
I love the repair work and it has paid me well for many years. Being watched during the repair was fun.
anyways, I simply love the job..
March 6th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Infected PC with McAfee on. Installed Malwarebytes’ Anti-Malware to remove ‘System tools’ scareware. Ran McAfee update and scanned. Got paid for 4 hours work which took 3 mins effort & 3 hours 57 mins waiting. Client wasn’t interested in learning how to maintain PC so repeat business is assured.
March 8th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Not so much repairing but at a previous job we had PCs on Construction sites that were filthy on returm. I used to hoover the inside with a normal hoover and wash the keyboards with a foam cleaner and water. Can’ t remember any ever failing but it used to raise a few eyebrows.
March 9th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Hopefully while doing the article this research is obviously for, you’ll take a moment to look at the larger picture. people often know next to nothing about their computers and make assumptions about the way things work.
my favorite so far, was being accused of “stealing the CPU from my computer” because we had installed updates for the machine, one of which had changed the displayed name of the CPU in device manager.
another, was a customer who spent a Year telling people locally that we’d sold her a used machine as new, because the sound didn’t work. when we finally heard about it, we went out to her place and replaced her unpowered speakers with an amplified set, which worked flawlessly.
or the number of times we’ve had people accuse us of stealing their M$ office, or their photoshop, because they had no license to reinstall it, and “it had come with the computer”
Humans are amazing creatures.
March 9th, 2011 at 3:12 am
I have been fixing computers… and breaking them for 15 years now – more than half my age. At this point, with how technology is moving forward – especially in the malware/virii space, I say TNO – Trust No One. Once a system is infected once, I will never trust it again. As to those who ask me to fix their systems – I will gladly help as my personal schedule and job let me, but I will not take money out of my pocket to help someone else. When I do help others, I never ask for money – I call it, “One of the perks of having me as a friend.” As to those pieces that I cannot fix, MOBO’s, dead (as in won’t spin up) Drives and the like, I’ll point my friends in the right direction, “get a new controller card for the drive but make sure you look at serial numbers A, B and C and make sure they match the drive that you are getting.” I will always lend a helping hand to any friend as long as rule A – I’m not being asked to do anything illegal, and B (as previously mentioned) it does not conflict with my work or my ‘Me’ time. Also – there is no set format for my help… I can be in front of the system, on the phone or by email – whatever strikes the balance of convenience for me between having the access I need to get the job done and providing the least intrusive assistance possible.
March 9th, 2011 at 4:00 am
I repair machines for friends and family only. No money in it otherwise. I charge a box of beer for a basic repair/recovery job (save the baby/wedding/pet photos and rebuild) and two boxes of beer if I deem they have done something stupid. It usually comes with saftey tips and gentle reminder not to blindly click on everything and to read the error dialogue boxes because they often have clues I can use.
March 9th, 2011 at 5:03 am
People are afraid of what they do not understand. Those with strong modern technical skills are often feared by the less informed, whose simpleminded reaction is to portray these people as evil, nerdy, socially challenged, etc.
There are indeed computer techs who will take advantage of the ignorant, just as there are unkind people in every business. That’s just the way our world is, deal with it. Take responsibility for your own life and your own problems, instead of playing the blame game. If you don’t want to get ripped off when purchasing any kind of service, not merely computer repair, then you will have to either spend the time to learn a little yourself, or do the research to find a reputable business. This is not a problem unique to technology.
March 9th, 2011 at 8:05 am
I’ve been fixing computers for decades. I’d say your request does seem a bit off, and largely because of a few bad people who’ve done wrong things. Here’s the simple societal fact: in EVERY industry, there are a few bad apples. This story (and the followup you have planned) doesn’t do anything more than make it look like it’s a decent portion of technicians who do such. Whether for ratings/money for this site or yourself, that is a disservice to the computer repair industry because of the way you word things.
On this note, we are very open and honest with our customers. We return EVERY part we replace. We take numerous pictures of any serious repair work, so we can show them, each step of the way, what we found and why things needed to be replaced. We’re considering videotaping as well – mostly for the heck of it.
And, do you know what doing the job right has earned us? (1) We have OTHER computer shops sending us repairs they cannot do (like laptop jack repairs), (2) we have repeat customers who refer us to friends in such a positive light, that we’ve had new referrals drop off machines with “So and so said I had to take this to you… it’s doing this. (hands machine over) Bye” – no waiting for a receipt, and a couple times, us even having to stop them and point out that they haven’t even given us their name or phone number, (3) we have many repeat customers (not because we do anything wrong, but because many of our customers have 3, 4, 5, or 7 machines in their household… and on any problem, they bring them to us) and (4) our business is growing via mostly due to word of mouth (other than our website being indexed in Google, we really don’t advertise).
Oh, and by the way… much of what I outlined above (the way we treat our customers and their machines) also applies to both the CompUSA I worked at and the CompUSA I worked as the Tech Manager at.
So… have fun with your story… but honestly, in my 2.5 decades of experience in the industry, the bad tech that does bad things to customers’ computers is the exception to the rule, and not the norm – and fits well within the range one would expect when they stop and realize that there simply are a few bad people in EVERY industry.
March 9th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
I’m an IT manager for a living and I used to do repairs but got bored by people assuming I knew absolutely everything about every computer under the sun – I would get quoted some obscure error message and asked why a PC does that, having no idea of what spec or what other software was on the machine.
Now I simply do a backup and rebuild – and even then I tell people if it’s not in the documents folder it’s not going to be saved. Saves endless hours of trying to remove whatever dodgy viruses/malware have been installed by whatever dodgy software or websites that the PC has been using .
I have also found that 99% of people either claim to be innocent of any wrong doing or simply blame it on their kids!
March 10th, 2011 at 11:11 am
@Stuart Mitchell.
Please be very careful what angle you take with this story. Leave the investigative journalism to “Cowboy Traders” who can investigate suspicions, and confirm via controlled filming. We’ve probably all seen the episode with the Mercedes driving PC repair man, who overcharged to replace a working top-of-the-range with a 2nd hand inferior model, and removed half the PCs RAM.
Why don’t you instead look at how much “local repair” shops charge and the service they provide, vs the charges offered by the “big boys”, and the service offered…
headline grabbing “we expose the repair scam” will simply drive the casual uninformed reader into the likes of PC World, whom in my opinion really dont know what they are doing.
That said, some anecdotes
Watching a PC World tech try to fit a SIMM into a PCI slot. And succeed :O
Confusing the local PC World ‘experts’ with questions about SCSI, then asking them to fix a SCSI chain… (ok, sorta unfair that one).
March 31st, 2011 at 7:48 am
I think if anybody has a computer related problem he/she should then look for a good computer repair solution company that must have a vast experience in the industry. Please don’t take a risk by going to a computer repair professional whose past record you don’t know. I myself have done this and now i advice all of you not to make such mistake
April 1st, 2011 at 11:12 am
I think the general rule with computer repairs (and indeed any repairs) is wherever possible to go with recommendations from friends and family.
A friend of mine took there 14 month old laptop to PC World (2 months out of warranty and bought there orginally) and was quoted £200 to fix a software issue.
PC World did not actually physically look at the laptop before offering this quote and it turned out in the end that the problem was a virus infection (£50 max at any other repair shop).
Do yourself a favour and ask around friends and family to see if they can recommend a good company (even a friend of a friend).
April 8th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
In reply to Computer Repairs Watford Oh! This is very sad to hear that you had to pay £200 to fix a software issue. This is not a good thing on part of the company where you had taken it.
May 2nd, 2011 at 12:44 am
Never mind the computer engineer, I find that the customer lies a lot. They never admit to corrupting their computer or uninstalling software themselves (by directly deleting files as opposed to using the control panel).
As a computer engineer I never worry about the computer problems. A computer can be fixed 99% of the time. What I worry about is the mentality of the customer and more precisely their lies.
Even with porn; I had one customer where she called me out for a repair because “a dancing lady popup” was bothering her. When I found the porn she blamed it on her student son. The only problem was the porn history showed the porn had been watched when the student son was at college and she was the only one in the house at that time.
today I had a customer who said she only started having computer problems yesterday, but as I was diagnosing the problem and talking to her she then admitted problems from a couple of weeks ago.
September 13th, 2011 at 11:36 am
I have had so many issues with Computer repair services. Some take advantage of the fact that they are the experts and you are not. I have often taken in my pc with a minor issue (i.e broken fan or lodged in CD drive) only to be fronted with a bill for hours of work and new components. If you find a repair shop you trust this is an invaluable resource.
January 11th, 2012 at 4:07 am
I use to like the mission critical jobs in computer repair. If you could not fix the problem there was money being lost it was fun learning all weird and wonderful packages i have to admit my favourite was the one with the music producer i siad when i walked in its a mint setup but i took it home it took me hours to get it to run but got there in the end.
March 22nd, 2012 at 1:46 am
i have been dealing with laptop computers for years,i remember the time a laptop could have done your back in if you wanted to carry it around with you,because being so heavy and also with tiny brain(cpu-ram),i have never been good with desktops,i even could not get one worked properly for my son,so it gets rusty where it stays at home,i also never ever deal with sofware issues,it takes ages to sort something out and can even not price it up charging costumers for it,if i ask hourly rate that will not be fair for costumers but if i ask small amount then i will lose hours that i could use reparing damaged computers,for that i just stay away from sofware issues,when i receive a laptop computer,i check to see the problem infront of my costumer,i show or say what it is wrong with it,how much it may cost and if it is worth to get it fixed,if laptop needs a part to be replaced,i ask to costumer make a choice,either let me buy for him or buy it himself,this way he will know how much it costs,to be perfectly honest,sometimes i do not like my business attitude,i am too good to be true and it is likely to get some costumers who tries to take liberty,still it is because i like my job,i just put up with anything
May 14th, 2012 at 4:14 pm
I often fix people’s PCs with numerous problems but what I have come to realize that their are Technicians who are not qualified do not solve problems in a good way, thus clients come to our workshop to repair the machine without informing us that the machine has been with other technicians. If this person had changed one of the peripherals the owner cant know. I therefore, recommend that those people seeking service should go to people whom they know or let them not leave machines with those strangers.