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Posted on October 29th, 2010 by Nicole Kobie

Creepy Facebook adds friend stalker tool

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Oh Facebook. You never do learn, do you?

The social networking service has unveiled a shiny new “See Friendship” button on the site, letting users see “the story of their friendships”. But instead of “See Friendship” being a nice little add-on feature, Facebook has again taken it one step too far and hurled itself crossed the creepy line.

To access the new feature, a link shows up next to wall posts from friends (it’s shown up in my account, but not others here at PC Pro, so if you haven’t seen it, give it a few days as Facebook tends to do staggered roll-outs). Click it, and it pulls onto one handy page content from your Facebook friendship, such as wall posts, comments, photos and events.

CaptureFacebook software engineer Wayne Kao said in a blog post that he realised a “magical experience was possible if all of the photos and posts between two friends were brought together. You’d remember that first wall post with your best friend or the funny photo from a night out. You may even see that moment when your favorite couple met at a party you all attended.”

Isn’t that lovely? We can all embrace nostalgia and travel back in time to relive those wonderful, magical moments… Even if we weren’t actually there.

With “See Friendship”, I can not only see everything between myself and my friends, but all the content shared between two mutual friends of mine, thanks to a handy search function. It lets you enter in the names of any two friends to reveal their entire Facebook correspondence with each other — even if the content dates from before you added either as friends.

For example, I can see everything our senior staff writer Mike Jennings has said over Facebook to our editor Tim Danton — absolutely nothing, as it turns out.

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Of course, all this information is already available to me. I could click around the site and find everything said between my mutual friends by sifting through their accounts. But that would take ages, and eventually — hopefully — I’d either get bored or ashamed of creeping on my friends. This makes it possible to stalk in seconds.

The next time Facebook has the idea for a whizzy new feature, it really needs to find someone normal to try it out on, such as, I don’t know, its users. A few have posted their thoughts:

“How can I disable this so people are NOT able to research which events I attended together with another friend or which photos we’re jointly tagged in? I realise this info was public before but now your ‘labor of love’ has yielded a handy tool for stalkers. DO NOT WANT, please opt me out.”

“It’s a handy tool for nosey people to gain an insight on someone else’s relationships with others which should be kept private.”

And my favourite: “I’ve always wanted this! And yes, I’m a creepy stalker.”

Of course, this being Facebook, all users are automatically opted in, and there’s no way (as of yet) to turn it off.

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46 Responses to “ Creepy Facebook adds friend stalker tool ”

  1. JFL Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    I am utterly sick of the way facebook keeps doing this. I should choose how much I value my own privacy and not some service which doesn’t even seem to have any good goal in eroding it. If Mark Zuckerberg had brains the size of his ego, he’d probably realise that people will easily desert facebook the instant somebody designs something which respects it’s users.

     
  2. Bluespider Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Can somebody please post a link to the Davey Winder article on how to burn your facebook account?

    This is going way too far!

     
  3. Nicole Kobie Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Hi Bluespider,

    That article can be found here: http://bit.ly/dAjA4A

    Thanks,
    Nicole

     
  4. Ryan Thomas Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Fair enough, they should have made this an opt-IN feature, but why are people still surprised when stuff they post on a PUBLIC website is readable/searchable? You’re not paying for it, so stop whining about it. If you don’t like it, don’t use it.

     
  5. mcviracca Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    I left facebook last year because I didn’t like the direction it was going in. When my friends asked me why I wasn’t on Facebook, I told them, they don’t respect my privacy. I tell students, why do you think this issue keeps coming up again and again? Because FB are there to make money, using you and your information.
    -
    Keep on p*ss*ng users off, FB, and they will leave you, the comments above show how some people have had enough.

     
  6. toffer99 Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Every few months I think “Well, maybe its time for me to finally join Facebook.” Every time they save me by doing something like this.

     
  7. DVD Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Agreed, once again, not the smartest move ever of Facebook’s but Ryan Thomas is absolutely right, nobody HAS to use Facebook, nobody HAS to post all their information on it and it isn’t the only way of communicating with friends. If you don’t like it, leave, but please do it without throwing a tantrum like HMRC just posted your tax records on its home page. Oh, and don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

     
  8. Bluespider Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 3:29 pm

    Thats all well and good, but the service intrinsically changes on the whims of its creators. the service ‘as is’ now is not necessarily the same as the one people signed up to. Many people wont realise this fundamental change and may not be comfortable or happy with the dissemenation of their information in this way.

     
  9. notonfacebook Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    hey JFL if you value your own privacy why post private information on a third-party website?

     
  10. Jim Previs Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Diaspora, hasten to our rescue!

     
  11. stuart meadowcroft Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Here’s an idea – don’t use facebook at all and try some normal relationships with people you actually know.

     
  12. Richard Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    The article, especially the title, seems silly and sensationalist. It’s a tool, and a very useful one. You have privacy options on Facebook and the ability not to post on there. It’s not that bad. In my opinion, things like http://www.dirtyphonebook.com that post peoples’ information without their consent are much worse than Facebook. Facebook takes privacy seriously. What’s next, Facebook releases some tool for sharing photos with friends and you accuse them of allowing child-molestors to spread pornography? Can we have some objectivity about Facebook here?

     
  13. NJank Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    so the real question, who can find the juiciest ‘friendship history’ to share with the internet as a whole?

     
  14. Skyla Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    We’ve all put some portion of our information out on the internet, specifically Facebook. Whether it be airing a grievance, or posting your cell number, or tagging a photo, you’ve done something. This was all your choice. Facebook didn’t force you to post this information, and if someone tagged you against your will, you could have removed it. If someone made a comment you didn’t like on your wall, you can delete it. All of the information in the new See Friendship tool is all information PEOPLE CAN ALREADY SEE, it’s just compiled in one place. So, learn to protect yourself better and manage your online presence, or leave Facebook and stop complaining.

     
  15. ClintJCL Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Learn to use private messages.

    This feature exposes ZERO new data to ZERO new people who couldn’t already find it on their own.

     
  16. Matt_Sec Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    I have to agree with Richard entirely, the article would feel perfectly at home in the sun newspaper.

    This data has always been public. you have chosen to upload your images. You have chosen to write visibly on friends ‘walls’, yet cry privacy! When facebook makes it easier for friends to search that data?
    Apologies I know this will sound appalling, but clearly the worst thing facebook did was open this up from being university email addresses only.

     
  17. Lothar Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    I have a novel idea for you. If you don’t want people to see something, don’t post it.

    Seriously PC Pro? You post an article like this and expect people to take you seriously? Get some common sense the entire point of facebook is to share things with people on your friends list.

     
  18. Steve Cassidy Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    I am using Facebook, mostly to keep up with all my bohemian mates from the bad old days. Very few of us say things that mess up our existing relationships: however, I do think this feature is a bad idea, mainly because it doesn’t involve people consenting to the view: only ideal relationships will be immune to bad reactions, and very few of us can claim to be ideal. There should be a simple “X has asked to go back through your old stuff” warning, to which people then agree.

     
  19. Michael O'Connor Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    This amount of ignorance being displayed in both this posts and by the commentators as utterly astounding.

    1) It’s a SOCIAL NETWORK. The entire purpose of a social NETWORK is to allow people to interact with each other.

    2) Despite my above point, Facebook already has privacy settings in place that allow you to hide your own statuses and other stuff from people who are friends with your friends. It takes about five seconds to change.

    3) Sure, it will likely display things you say on another person’s wall, but then… why would you post something sensitive on a public page? You can use PMs, email, or face to face interaction for that sort of thing.

    4) Your privacy settings allow you to hide 99% of the things you put on Facebook for whomever you want…. your own friends included.

    My Facebook is set so that the vast majority of my information is visible only to people on my friends list. The only people who could take advantage of this new tool are our *mutual* friends.

    If you’re too lazy to edit your own privacy settings, the problem here isn’t with Facebook…

    *hands out tinfoil hats to everyone*

     
  20. Anthony Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    I’ve just joined Twitter!

     
  21. Julie Goldberg Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    Here is what I tell my students: if you’re not the customer (i.e. you have paid money for the service), then you are the PRODUCT. FB’s customers are its advertisers. Its users are their product for sale to its customers. Products don’t have rights. You can choose not to be a product. Sadly, I keep choosing to be FB’s product.

     
  22. Jason Paisley Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Makes me wish Diaspora would hurry up and get going. Open source Facebook with massive priority given to privacy.

     
  23. deb Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    You think this is bad – read this story about online privacy. Time to start a fake account and email that is separate from who you are for Google, Facebook, all of it. Even then, there’s only so much you can hide.

    http://www.newsweek.com/2010/10/22/forget-privacy-what-the-internet-knows-about-you.html

     
  24. EZ Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    “How can I disable this so people are NOT able to research which events I attended together with another friend or which photos we’re jointly tagged in?”

    Very easy. Don’t allow yourself to be tagged in places and photos. If you are concerned about these things being visible, you should adjust your privacy settings at the source.

    Complaining that this is a privacy breach would be like posting naked pictures of yourself on Picasa, with your name and address, and then complaining that people can find where you live and know what you look like naked by using Google search.

     
  25. Kate Miller Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    I’m with Ryan Thomas, DVD, and others; if you don’t want information in the public domain, don’t put it on facebook.

     
  26. Clare Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    Really pleased, this feature sounds like a great addition. I know it’s stuff I can already, and do, do (basically Wall-to-wall with extra photos and events), but nice to draw it together like this. Very helpful where you have several friends who all know each other.

    I don’t post anything I’m not happy for all my “friends” to see. I set all my privacy settings to “friends only”. I find it helpful that my friends can all see what I’m up to and join in. It’s much like how conversation happens down the pub.

    Genuinely puzzled by others’ paranoia.

     
  27. Bill Says:
    October 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm

    Facebook is no place to share personal and private communication. When are people going to realise this. Facebook is a “PUBLIC” forum.
    If you do not want people to see your information, do not put it on a “PUBLIC” forum. It’s that easy.

     
  28. Mary Says:
    October 30th, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Use tribe.net instead.

     
  29. Danny Says:
    October 30th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    What a silly article. Scaremongering about stuff which is clearly there in the domain of those you’ve chosen to share it with. Clearly those who’re angry/scared really don’t have a clue about the internet, and should probably retreat before they embarrass themselves in front of those of us who do actually understand basic logic and personal responsibility for what we actively choose to share.

     
  30. JJN Says:
    October 30th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Another validation of my decision to not sign up with facebook, myspace or any others.

     
  31. Martin Says:
    October 30th, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    So is this just a souped-up version of the existing “See wall-to-wall” link, that’s been on Facebook for aaaaages?

     
  32. G Says:
    November 1st, 2010 at 1:45 am

    yeah this is over hyped… actually FB has more privacy settings than other sites like YT or MS, at least only people you know are allowed to be on your list whereas you usually just add anyone on other sites.

     
  33. big_D Says:
    November 1st, 2010 at 5:25 am

    @Kate Miller (and others) Facebook started out as a place to privately chat with friends. You couldn’t look at information about people who weren’t friends, other than their top level profile information, until you were friended.

    Over the last couple of years, Facebook seem to have turned the privacy 180°. Instead of being private conversations among friends, more and more of it is, by default, open to the whole world – which is why a lot of long term users are getting upset with the ever faster slide from privacy to being 100% open.

    People went to sites like Twitter, because they were open and they could send out posts to anybody and everybody who was interested.

    Facebook was there for those who didn’t want to put everything out there, just share it with a few friends.

    Now Facebook is becoming ever more like a clone of Twitter, with long messages…

    I gave up and deleted my account about 6 months ago.

     
  34. Greemble Says:
    November 1st, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    Nothing new

    Martin beat me to it – yes, it’s the “See Wall-to-Wall” link that’s been on Facebook for sometime.
    It’s certainly not a “Shiny new Feature”

    They’ve just renamed it.

     
  35. MadaboutDana Says:
    November 1st, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    I’ve avoided Facebook despite considerable pressure to “conform”, and you know what? I’m wiping my brow and muttering “there but for the grace of Garfield…”. Having just found out that LinkedIn almost certainly has direct access to GoogleMail, the last thing I need is Facebook in my life.

     
  36. Rob Levy Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 8:07 am

    The facebook API would allow a third party to build an identical application to this even if facebook themselves hadn’t. You can allow an app to access all your friend’s posts, photos, etc anyway. In fact, Id be surprised if a similar third party tool didn’t already exist. This is a wake up call to set appropriate privacy on your data.

     
  37. Cecil Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    Greemble, wrong. This shows you posts, pictures and any other common stuff between two people. It isn’t “Wall-to-wall” at all.

    As for the article, it’s another sensationalist piece. Fact is the info was already accessible previously. Trying to say that before it would’ve taken too long so was OK is silly. I mean, does the author want the “all pictures from this person” removed too on the same basis?

    Nothing to see here, it’s simply a feature that shows already-accessible info in a new form.

     
  38. Bob Says:
    November 2nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    I woulden’t get to upset about this people FB is only for those who like to celebtate the mundane….

    Let them get on with it

     
  39. Neil Cooper Says:
    November 4th, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    There’s a very easy way to avoid these Facebook developments – don’t join the bloody thing! It is so open to abuse and misuse I’m surprised anyone wants to be part of it – we all manged without this crap before!

     
  40. Horace Says:
    November 4th, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    WE DON’T HAVE FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS, SAY PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT PRIVACY

    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2768&Itemid=81

     
  41. Stephen Says:
    November 4th, 2010 at 5:57 pm

    Funnily enough about 90% of the material about me on Facebook didn’t get put there by me.

    It’s hugely simplistic to say that if I don’t like Facebook I shouldn’t use Facebook. Apparently neither should any of my friends or any one else who knows me.

    Or Facebook could work on the privacy protections, just a thought.

     
  42. Peter Feld Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 5:35 am

    I think the defenders of Facebook are off-base and a bit insulting. The “why put it on Facebook if you don’t want it to be public” is disingenuous because the most dangerous info being exposed here is which events people have attended together. Unfortunately in most social circles, Facebook has become the default event invitation tool and your RSVP is public unless the whole event is private. Suddenly Facebook has made it easy and even compelling to find out the entire content history between two people – everything they’ve attended together for years, all mutual photos.

    The defense that this was previously all public anyway is unpersuasive. How would you even know which events to look for if you wanted to know two friends’ history together? Many people delete events from their profile page. Realistically, this is data that no one would have seen before and now a lot of people will see with one click – so it is a huge change to the environment. Pick two friends you think might be having an affair and in one second you’ll see everything they’ve done together. How is that not a huge change?

    The “scaremongering” in this article is appropriate because it is the biggest (most impactful) erosion of privacy on Facebook since it started. I closed my account this morning over this.

     
  43. oatc Says:
    November 5th, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Isn’t the whole ethos of Facebook against privacy, as their business model? Didn’t it start as a way to publicly rate the sex appeal of students using their college ID pictures without their consent? Everything seems to point to them intending to overwhelm and destroy the very concept of privacy.

    As privacy campaigner, obviously I won’t have anything to do with it, but increasingly other sites are requiring Facebook membership to participate in public discussion, and I keep getting “invitations” from the company that list multiple people who are contacts of mine (and some who aren’t), so they compile and hold information on non-members too, which is illegal.

     
  44. ej Says:
    November 12th, 2010 at 7:11 am

    friendship button isnt new, it replaced “wall 2 wall” button, same function, dif name…

     
  45. Another User Says:
    November 27th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Good news and bad news.

    I know, you want to hear the good news.

    Yes, this ’see friendship’ feature can be disabled. Completely. I tested it with different ways adjusting the settings.

    Now the bad news. Well. I’m sure it is bad for 99% of facebook users.

    1. Goto Account – > Privacy Settings

    2. Click the link ‘Customize Settings.’

    3. Scroll down to the third section ‘Things other share’

    4. You will see this Friends can post on my wall [x]. Remove the checkmark

    This means your wall is closed. Yes, bad news.

    This means your friends can’t write on your wall.

    Any previous messages are not deleted. You can verify this. You probably want to ‘clean’ your wall anyway as no new messages will be posted.

    It gets worse. Any friend can’t see the ‘friendship’ between you and him/her.

    And they can’t see your friendship with any common friends. Which is the objective of the change, correct?

    Now, you are going to ask. How can they contact me?

    There are only two basic ways:
    a- Private messages.
    b- You can change your status and they can reply to it in the comments.

    In option b, when you change your status, you can make the change visible to a list or to a friend only.

    You can also change your status and make it visible to one friend only.

    The problem is, he/she doesn’t know that the message is only visibile to him/her. So you probably have to tell him/her in the status changed.

    You want to test it? You need two friends. One to send a couple of messages and get a reply and another common friend that can verify that the messages exchanged are not visible to him/her.

    Too complex? Yes, I know. So we probably want to stop using Facebook then.

     
  46. synthetic opals Says:
    November 8th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Debby loves doing investigations and it is obvious why.

     

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