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Posted on December 4th, 2009 by Tom Arah

Live Mesh – the key to the cloud?

Live Mesh Live Desktop

About a year ago I wrote a piece about my initial experiences and first impressions of Microsoft Live Mesh. Essentially I was a huge fan and remain so. In fact I’m now even more excited about the technology and can see it playing a crucial role in the advent of, and successful transition to, cloud-based computing.

This might seem surprising. After all, the way I saw the Live Mesh beta back then, and use it today, is as a glorified data synchronization service. Set up your mesh across multiple systems and you can essentially forget about it: Live Mesh gets to work behind-the-scenes, automatically ensuring that the most recent versions of all your important files are there ready-to-go on whichever of your desktop or notebook systems you happen to be using.

In fact it looks like Live Mesh is a great example of why we don’t need the cloud.  After all, the great advantage of the cloud is that it provides universal access to your current files, but its big disadvantages are that this is only true if you have internet access and that, when you do, you are limited to using lightweight Rich Internet Applications (RIAs). With Live Mesh you get the great benefit of cloud computing but in the online/offline context of local computing and with the major pluses that your precious files remain actual rather than virtual and that you can always use your full-blown desktop applications to edit them.

This is right, but it’s missing out an important element: the Live Desktop. In daily use this is easy to overlook, but it’s important to realise that the way that Live Mesh works its magic is by automatically copying all of your updated files to and from central server-based storage whenever your local systems are connected to the internet.

This Live Desktop doesn’t just act as your central data clearing-house. While you can generally ignore it in current daily use, the fact that your files are stored online and kept live (rather than in some inaccessible backup format) means that in an emergency you can easily get at them, say from an internet cafe or if your office gets flooded.

In other words, via the Live Desktop, Live Mesh adds two other major cloud-based benefits: simple online backup and truly universal access (hopefully with built-in versioning to come). Again though it does so in the context of local computing. So where does the cloud come in?

The point is that as soon as you sign up to Live Mesh, and almost without realising it, you’re automatically storing all of your data online in the cloud. This isn’t just useful for synchronisation and backup – it’s also potentially very useful for work. In particular, with the coming generation of Office-lite RIAs your Live Desktop should be able to become just that – a live, cloud-based alternative platform to your local desktop.

I wrote “alternative platform” and in the longer term that may prove to be the case. However, I think that the real significance of the Live Desktop is as an extension of your local desktop rather than as its replacement.

And the real beauty of Live Mesh is that it should make your Live Desktop a seamless and painless extension. In particular, just as it does today in a local context, Live Mesh could automatically remove the hassle of manually synchronising data to and from the cloud. Work on the most recent version of a file on your Live Desktop with a lightweight, cloud-based device using a lightweight RIA and, when you next open your full-blown desktop or notebook, it’s this new edited version that will automatically open into your full-blown desktop app.

Currently much of the resistance to the idea of cloud computing comes from the assumption that such a fundamental paradigm shift in working practice must inherently involve ditching current desktop-based local computing and that we’d therefore end up losing far more than we’d gain. If the initial premise were true, I’d agree wholeheartedly. However I don’t think that this is an either/or argument.

Thanks to Live Mesh, or some similar technology from other interested parties such as Google, cloud computing can automatically become a seamless extension of local computing and vice versa. With “here, there, anywhere” data handling, we shouldn’t have to choose one over the other, but can instead enjoy the benefits of both.

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19 Responses to “ Live Mesh – the key to the cloud? ”

  1. db298 Says:
    December 4th, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    The worry is that Microsoft have sat on Live Mesh for nearly two years, and it’s hardly changed or moved on at all. They previewed apps built on the platform early on, but since that they’ve had TWO PDC’s with nary a mention of the poor thing. I use Mesh every day, and it’s SUPERB. The combination of file sync and desktop access is brilliant, but I’m really concerned that the project has been sidelined by Microsoft. There has been no talk of developing things further – for example it could be so well integrated into Windows Home Server, Office online, Windows 7 etc etc, but there’s been nothing…

     
  2. sbj75 Says:
    December 4th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Interesting post. As with the above poster, I use Live Mesh all the time. I’m a student and am able to have all my files with me, no matter where I am using the Live Desktop, although I wish Microsoft would move forward and develop downloading of multiple files.

    I agree with your conclusion on Live Mesh’s impact on cloud computing. I do look forward to integration with Office 2010 web apps.

     
  3. AnonnyMuss Says:
    December 4th, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    I believe services like Live Mesh become more important as we move to paradigms such as a desktop/netbook duo.

    Microsoft’s lack of strategic coherence is evident by their Office Live Workspace offering. This allows for group control of documents, online browser-based viewing of documents and other features such as commenting and versioning.

    Some kind of combination of this with Live Mesh would make Office infinitely more useful than any rivals including Google Docs and OpenOffice – the power of local computing with most of the cloud benefits available.

     
  4. Matt Says:
    December 5th, 2009 at 9:42 am

    Aren’t you describing a solution which is already provided by Apple’s excellent MobileMe service? Or have I missed something?

     
  5. greemble Says:
    December 5th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    Does Apple’s MobileMe work with Windows?

    How much do Apple charge for it?

     
  6. RedCitrus Says:
    December 5th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    I used Foldershare years ago before MS bought it and turned it into a horrible, bloated monster. Dropbox is a much nicer, elegant solution which surpassed Live Sync by miles – and it’s available for Linux as well as Windows and Mac.
    Oh, and it supports versioning as well. And there’s an iPhone app too.

    I love Dropbox.

     
  7. splodgebucket Says:
    December 6th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    What guarantees do you get about data protection and backup with this free service? Do you have assurances the data is stored within the EU in a means that is compliant with data protection laws? Is there a backup recovery service that lets you restore copies of a given document on a specific date?

     
  8. Steve Cassidy Says:
    December 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

    From statements made at TechEd when I pressed various MS types on the nature of Cloud Computing, I’d say Mr Collins is spot on here. Cloud computing is far more about on-demand GFLOPS, paid on a metered basis, than it is about the various ways that distributed storage can confuse you.

     
  9. Nick Says:
    December 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Another thumbs up for Dropbox here. It really is superb, cross platform and elegant. There are none of the clumsy annoying Windows silliness that Live Mesh demands.

     
  10. muck Says:
    December 6th, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Actually I think MobileMe is for Windows now but it’s not the same. You have to sync with the server and back the other way at another computer. It’s basically a central repository. Live Mesh is more than that when you save something on one computer it updates every other computer logged in, A file, A folder. Whatever you set up. Apple insists on installing MobileMe and iTunes(vomit). Apple also charges for this.
    Live Mesh is available for Windows and Mac OSX and is a much smaller install at only 25MB and is fairly invisible to the user, oh and is free.

     
  11. David Wright Says:
    December 7th, 2009 at 10:15 am

    I use MobileMe to synchronise my Windows machines, Mac and iPhone.

    Live Mesh killed the last PC I installed it on :-( But it does seem good, when mixed in with the rest of the services – and it is currently free.

    I see the cloud computing somewhere in the future, but I already use MobileMe and mobile profiles on the domain at work, to achieve data synchronisation between my machines.

    With the current state of the internet, it is a better solution than pure cloud computing. This hybrid method is the way to go at present, but I think, as Internet access becomes more universal, thin client technology will make a comeback.

     
  12. Tom Arah Says:
    December 7th, 2009 at 10:43 am

    I agree that as it stands Live Mesh is currently functionally pretty much identical to Dropbox – ie cloud-mediated automatic synchronisation for local computing – and as such unbelievably useful.

    The reason that I think that Live Mesh is potentially even more interesting and significant is that Microsoft (and Google and Adobe) are in the position to take the idea far further and turn it into a cloud computing platform where you can do real work with the virtual copy of the files not just with the local ones.

    It’s the combination of Live Mesh with Silverlight and the coming generation of rich web-based Office apps that I think is really exciting ie when Live Mesh’s “Live Desktop” could/should really come to life.

     
  13. Ray Barclay Says:
    December 7th, 2009 at 1:36 pm

    Dropbox provides 2GB free but Live Mesh gives 5GB, which was the decider for me.

     
  14. MadaboutDana Says:
    December 7th, 2009 at 4:15 pm

    Have to say I use LiveMesh all the time and LOVE it. Very simple, just lurks in the background and does wot it sez on the tin. Tried DropBox, tried the other Microsoft goodies (which all suffer from MS’s amazing bloat syndrome – Windows Live Office being the worst); I have a MobileMe account, which would be good except that you can’t remote-synch files unless you’re a Mac user (I’m not interested in remote-synching contacts, appointments etc., they’re already on my ‘phone).

     
  15. Adrian B Says:
    December 8th, 2009 at 4:58 pm

    What decided me against DropBox and for LiveMesh – at least, as a 1st go – was that DropBox supposedly only synchronises stuff in and under a folder MyDropbox. I really don’t want to start rearranging my data to suit my software. Happy to be corrected.

     
  16. Peter McIntyre Says:
    December 19th, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    I tried to install LiveMesh – it offered me the choice between XP32 and Vista 64. I have XP64. It did not seem to want to know. Is this just an example of the driver desert for XP64 or do I have an option? Will it work with Windows 7 64?

     
  17. Mat Says:
    December 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    I’ve been using live Mesh for several months, and I’m very pleased with it.
    I’ve been using Skydrive for a while, but after “discovering” Live Mesh… Well, a total different world.
    Very easy, and works well on Vista and XP. Some problems are the single file downloading, no option to copy-paste and no sub folder rename option in the Live desktop.

     
  18. Amadar_Currey Says:
    January 16th, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Thanks for the information. I am very interested in the cloud Computing materials. Since i am in the field of computing. But i felt very harder when searching for job in this field. That time cloudjobs.net helped me out in getting me a job.

     
  19. iphone development Says:
    May 18th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    Thanks for the review of Live Mesh. I think it`s really convenient for those who prefer Windows and have to work on many devices. It`s very handy to have one`s files` updated versions saved in central server-based storage and to get access to them from Live Mesh.

     

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