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Posted on November 23rd, 2009 by Mike Jennings

ATI Radeon HD 5970: 42% more expensive in the UK

ATI Radeon HD 5970The ATI Radeon HD 5970, aside being from the fastest graphics card in the world, is several things: hot enough to sear the skin off your fingers, for instance, and so huge that it’ll barely fit inside the average ATX case.

At £520 inc VAT for a stock version, it’s also one of the most expensive graphics cards available in the UK – and, when the same card costs $599 in the US, that seems like a tremendous rip-off.

We’ve asked ATI to clarify exactly how it arrived at this price – after all, a straight conversion of the American price would see the HD 5970 costing around £360 – but the firm’s replies have only consisted of the usual corporate excuses, with VAT, shipping costs and exchange rates all blamed for the 42% price hike.

So, how likely are these oft-used excuses?

Exchange rates and the volatile world economy, for instance, are often cited as major reasons for inflated prices – but I can’t see why. Firms like Adobe have claimed in the past that “we don’t take into account the currency” when pricing a product; instead, it’s easier (and more profitable) to set a price that reflects “the value that customers place on products” – so, the maximum amount that they’re willing to pay – and leave it at that. It seems that ATI plays by the same rules.

ATI’s other excuses don’t hold up to scrutiny, either. Shipping costs, for instance: why should a card manufactured in Asia cost so much more to distribute in Europe than the US? Inevitably some higher costs are involved when shipping to the more fragmented European market, but surely ATI benefits from economies of scale. After all, product manager David Baumann has reassured eager buyers that “most of the thousands of [HD 5000-series cards] shipped so far have gone to Europe”.ATI Radeon HD 5970

Mainland Europe, however, appears to have been hit even harder: buy the HD 5970 in Germany and you’ll pay around €619, which is 53% more than you’d pay in the US and 10% more than you’d pay here  in the UK.

ATI’s other major excuse was VAT – but with the 15% tax removed from the cost of the card it’d still cost £452, and that’s still far from the US figure. Prices are set to rise again at the end of the year, too, as VAT returns to its old rate of 17.5%.

According to a leading British PC firm, though, it’d be unfair to heap the blame exclusively onto ATI, even if its wholesale prices remain “excessive”. A spokesperson for the firm, which wishes to remain anonymous, speculated that some retailers are “making hay while the sun shines” by adding “as much as 40%” to wholesale prices – and confirming that, if he had any stock, “it simply wouldn’t be worth selling [the HD 5970] at the usual 5% margin”.

It seems that no single party is innocent, with every step in the supply chain getting their money’s worth from the most expensive graphics card around: ATI is selling the HD 5970 at an “excessive” price to its partners, he said, “who are selling it at an increased price” to distributors which are, in turn, “making a good 10%-15%” on their normal prices – and that’s before the retailers get hold of the card and add in their own margins.

Yet, ATI still has to accept the lion’s share of the blame. After all, an ATI spokesperson told us that “EMEA prices tend to be higher than US prices” and, if ripping off customers who happen to live outside America seems to be the done thing, there’s little incentive for ATI – or any of the other businesses involved – to call a halt to this practice. It’s just disheartening that the only people who suffer are some of ATI’s most important assets: its customers.

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17 Responses to “ ATI Radeon HD 5970: 42% more expensive in the UK ”

  1. Philip Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    It’s a bit difficult to blame ATI for the price increase, as unlike Adobe, they don’t sell directly. We don’t know how much they’re charging the resellers.

     
  2. Mike Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 3:42 pm

    We can all intellectualise the reasons but we all know it. They know they can get away with trying to cheat us here! However, with internet shopping we should be able to avoid such situations for ourselves. I luckily travel a lot with work so frequently buys goods away from the UK. I also try and avoid companies who use such moral indefensable practices.

    Anyone with half a brain and google can get a better price from somewhere else.

     
  3. Steve Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Well, I’ve got half a brain, but I can’t use goggle, so I’ll be paying full price thank you very much!

     
  4. Alan B Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Well, you can rest assured that if you folks in the UK are getting gouged, we in Ireland will be getting gouged to the tune of a further 10%. Can you say ‘iPhone’ ??

     
  5. Nick Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    I’m sorry, but £520 is more than my mortgage payment. No piece of electronic hardware is worth that investment except by people with absolutely no responsibility whatsoever.

    In all honesty, considering the idiotic amount of money I’ve spent on kit in my time, given a time travelling older me I’d far and away prefer to have saved it now. There are better things to spend £500 on than a graphics card.

    Bottom. I’m getting old.

     
  6. db298 Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    It’s pretty much a factor of supply and demand, and the state of the market. Nvidia have dropped the ball at the moment, with no competitor for the 5970 in the short-term. In that context, ATI can charge what they like, and those that want the cream of the crop have to pay for it.

    I know that doesn’t deal with the transatlantic difference, but ATI are entitled to charge what they like to recover their R&D costs (and also some losses from other projects perhaps) when they are essentially in a market of 1.

     
  7. Treeboy Says:
    November 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Why write an article like this when very few of your readers will ever consider spending that sort of cash on a graphics card?
    Instead why are you not covering the lack of 5000 series graphics cards affecting all manufacturers of PCs and thus a hell of a lot readers like me waiting weeks extra for a PC?

     
  8. Skunky Says:
    November 24th, 2009 at 12:01 am

    One sure way to bring the price down is boycott the product until it comes in at a reasonable price.

     
  9. David Staples Says:
    November 24th, 2009 at 4:20 am

    Makes me feel slightly less narked that I’ve “only” got a 4870(x).

    That’s big and hot enough to satisfy me (oooohh errr!)

     
  10. Juice Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 8:08 am

    Steve it seems the half a brain you have that still works isnt working so well.

     
  11. Barrie Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Ive just bought the wife a dual core PC costing less than that graphics card, only the Rich irresponsible or “expenses claiming brigade ” would pay for one

     
  12. Ian Says:
    November 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Not really sure why buying a £500 video card makes you “irresponsible”. It’s like anything else; there is always a market for luxury high cost goods and this is one such item. If you have the money available, why not spend it on something you enjoy. It’s no less or more irresponsible than going away for a week’s holiday

     
  13. Paul Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    42% more expensive in the uk ! i wonder if nvidia had been on the ball with the release of fermi based graphics cards if the 5970 would have been just under the £300 price tag? no i am not a fan boy of either ati or nvidia but i got to say i feel sorry for the loyal ATi buyers who have bought the products that helped keep the company afloat during the times when Nvidia dominated the market with better performance better drivers but pricey products, after all ati still have problems with drivers which i might add should not be happening on a product of this price, hell i could buy a laptop computer for the same money. i have been using and building gameing computers for 15 years and spent more than the wife need know on parts and graphics cards but i am coming to the end with computers and the pc gameing is doomed because of crazy priceing of computer parts especialy graphics cards and the sad thing being is microsoft will win the day with the x-box 360 gameing platform and then who will ati sell the products to Microsoft, Sony ? who will by then like asda will state what they are willing to pay for the products. remember be good to joe public and joe public will be good to you !oh and most are going to now wait for fermi and see what nvidia have to offer hopefuly this will deflate the now crazy prices of the latest direct x 11 cards

     
  14. Daz Says:
    November 27th, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    Overclockers UK isn’t the only e-tailer in the UK, though I’m sure they appreciate the advert.

    A search on Froogle shows the same card available for around £430 – albeit pre-order (OCUK is pre-order now only too). Still ridiculously expensive, but better than £520…

     
  15. markus wallett Says:
    December 1st, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Who in their right mind would pay 500 quid for a graphics card? Oh yeah, those same people who bought the latest incarnation of the Iphone.

     
  16. mike hayes Says:
    December 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    this cost game has gone on for years. what ever the item if it costs a dollar in usa it will cos t £1 in uk

     
  17. Colin Says:
    December 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 am

    “surely ATI benefits from economies of scale. After all, product manager David Baumann has reassured eager buyers that “most of the thousands of [HD 5000-series cards] shipped so far have gone to Europe”.”

    Well duh! Thanks David. I’d be shipping all my product to where I got the biggest margins too!

     

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