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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-113482</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congratulation to those people who chose to queue rather than pre orderding from Comet. 4 day&#039;s after release and still no sign of my copies of Windows 7, if lucky may get them on Thur 29/10 1 week after release. will not make the mistake of using Comet again. surely they must realise why customers pre order, amaizingly i walked into their Northampton store today and could have purchased a copy off the self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congratulation to those people who chose to queue rather than pre orderding from Comet. 4 day&#8217;s after release and still no sign of my copies of Windows 7, if lucky may get them on Thur 29/10 1 week after release. will not make the mistake of using Comet again. surely they must realise why customers pre order, amaizingly i walked into their Northampton store today and could have purchased a copy off the self.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-112984</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you received an updated package, did you download today or at launch?

Can&#039;t think what else it could, unless it is to do with 32 bit and 64 bit setup packages being different....

I can&#039;t say it was too much trouble, after the initial worry about it being corrupted somehow the workarounds were relatively straightforward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you received an updated package, did you download today or at launch?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t think what else it could, unless it is to do with 32 bit and 64 bit setup packages being different&#8230;.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say it was too much trouble, after the initial worry about it being corrupted somehow the workarounds were relatively straightforward.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-112912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually got the choice after launching the .exe whether I wanted an in-place upgrade or a clean install.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually got the choice after launching the .exe whether I wanted an in-place upgrade or a clean install.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-112909</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is good news, though as I indicated above

a) I did not really want to take the chance! and,
b) I never wanted to upgrade in-place, for the reasons outlined above. 

I do hope it works easily for msot people, and that the reported incidents were the minority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is good news, though as I indicated above</p>
<p>a) I did not really want to take the chance! and,<br />
b) I never wanted to upgrade in-place, for the reasons outlined above. </p>
<p>I do hope it works easily for msot people, and that the reported incidents were the minority.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-112903</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, 

I also got Win 7 through the Student offer. If you just run the .exe file it all installs and works out fine. You even get asked for your serial key. 

I had no problems here &#039;upgrading&#039; from the Windows 7 RC to Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit using the .exe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, </p>
<p>I also got Win 7 through the Student offer. If you just run the .exe file it all installs and works out fine. You even get asked for your serial key. </p>
<p>I had no problems here &#8216;upgrading&#8217; from the Windows 7 RC to Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit using the .exe.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-112876</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had seen this prior to installing it:

&quot;The Windows 7 launch seems to have gone off mostly roses and sunbeams, but we&#039;re hearing today that quite a few people have had issues installing the downloadable $29 student upgrade edition on 32-bit Vista -- apparently the file doesn&#039;t unpack to an ISO, but instead to an executable and two bundles that don&#039;t function properly, and eventually the process errors out with a 64-bit app trying to launch on 32-bit systems. It&#039;s possible to create an ISO using some hackery, but the install process seems to be 50/50 after that -- we&#039;ve heard of both success and further crashes. For it&#039;s part, Microsoft says it&#039;s looking into things, so hopefully a newly repackaged download will be forthcoming -- every party has its ups and downs, right?&quot;

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-student-upgrade-installer-not-working-for-many/

The email I received linked to a FAQ which said both in-place upgrade and custom install were possible.

I think that it is better to offer an ISO download that people could put on a DVD and have easy access to rather than a download version which, let&#039;s face it, can have a number of problems (link down, slow broadband, file gets deleted, etc).

More to the point, I think it is a sensible practice to allow a full clean install and, if necessary, just require proof of having a previous version of Windows. There are so many pitfalls to an upgrade in-place method, though I admit that an awful lot of people could do it hassle-free.

I cannot speak to how it would work on XP either, I understand there you would have to do a custom install, which would again pose a problem with the download pack offered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had seen this prior to installing it:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Windows 7 launch seems to have gone off mostly roses and sunbeams, but we&#8217;re hearing today that quite a few people have had issues installing the downloadable $29 student upgrade edition on 32-bit Vista &#8212; apparently the file doesn&#8217;t unpack to an ISO, but instead to an executable and two bundles that don&#8217;t function properly, and eventually the process errors out with a 64-bit app trying to launch on 32-bit systems. It&#8217;s possible to create an ISO using some hackery, but the install process seems to be 50/50 after that &#8212; we&#8217;ve heard of both success and further crashes. For it&#8217;s part, Microsoft says it&#8217;s looking into things, so hopefully a newly repackaged download will be forthcoming &#8212; every party has its ups and downs, right?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-student-upgrade-installer-not-working-for-many/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/23/windows-7-student-upgrade-installer-not-working-for-many/</a></p>
<p>The email I received linked to a FAQ which said both in-place upgrade and custom install were possible.</p>
<p>I think that it is better to offer an ISO download that people could put on a DVD and have easy access to rather than a download version which, let&#8217;s face it, can have a number of problems (link down, slow broadband, file gets deleted, etc).</p>
<p>More to the point, I think it is a sensible practice to allow a full clean install and, if necessary, just require proof of having a previous version of Windows. There are so many pitfalls to an upgrade in-place method, though I admit that an awful lot of people could do it hassle-free.</p>
<p>I cannot speak to how it would work on XP either, I understand there you would have to do a custom install, which would again pose a problem with the download pack offered.</p>
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		<title>By: AnonnyMuss</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-112855</link>
		<dc:creator>AnonnyMuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used the student download version for Professional (have ordered a disc too for the future).

You get an .exe file which is used to unpack the .box archives

Given that the student website only offers upgrade versions, I think the intention is that most people will go from Vista HP to W7 HP and do an in-place upgrade.

I took an alternative root of installing W7 onto a second partition on my hard drive. The multi-boot was automatically set up for me so I have equal access to W7 and Vista (though W7 takes boot priority).

If you want to do a clean install on a single partition then move the exe and box files to a USB drive (I put it on an external hard drive) and do it from there.

It&#039;s not designed to be used like a CD install and they offer you the opportunity to buy a CD too for only £9 more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used the student download version for Professional (have ordered a disc too for the future).</p>
<p>You get an .exe file which is used to unpack the .box archives</p>
<p>Given that the student website only offers upgrade versions, I think the intention is that most people will go from Vista HP to W7 HP and do an in-place upgrade.</p>
<p>I took an alternative root of installing W7 onto a second partition on my hard drive. The multi-boot was automatically set up for me so I have equal access to W7 and Vista (though W7 takes boot priority).</p>
<p>If you want to do a clean install on a single partition then move the exe and box files to a USB drive (I put it on an external hard drive) and do it from there.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not designed to be used like a CD install and they offer you the opportunity to buy a CD too for only £9 more.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh they supplied the wrong thing all right, it is all over the internet. Student download version only I think.

And yes, I did back up to an external HDD. I was going from Win 7 RC, which meant hunting for a different fix than most used just to complicate things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh they supplied the wrong thing all right, it is all over the internet. Student download version only I think.</p>
<p>And yes, I did back up to an external HDD. I was going from Win 7 RC, which meant hunting for a different fix than most used just to complicate things.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/22/the-windows-7-retail-experience/comment-page-1/#comment-112744</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first reaction is, it sounds like you downloaded the wrong thing (or they offered you the wrong thing).

Umm: you backed up your XP machine before you did this, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction is, it sounds like you downloaded the wrong thing (or they offered you the wrong thing).</p>
<p>Umm: you backed up your XP machine before you did this, right?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for what it&#039;s worth, the second point requires further hacking, which I found at this site:

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp

It&#039;s a regedit manoeuvre, but it works for me. 

So no massive hassle in the end, but both problems could easily have been avoided. 

At least Windows 7 is nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for what it&#8217;s worth, the second point requires further hacking, which I found at this site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a regedit manoeuvre, but it works for me. </p>
<p>So no massive hassle in the end, but both problems could easily have been avoided. </p>
<p>At least Windows 7 is nice.</p>
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