<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Can Windows 7 convert a Mac user?</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/</link>
	<description>Blogging in the real world</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:02:20 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: car dvd</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-157264</link>
		<dc:creator>car dvd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-157264</guid>
		<description>The real difference between PCs and Macs is the software. If you want to do architecture, you need a Mac. Not because there isn’t software for the PC, but because nobody uses it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real difference between PCs and Macs is the software. If you want to do architecture, you need a Mac. Not because there isn’t software for the PC, but because nobody uses it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-114847</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-114847</guid>
		<description>Well having waited for the new imac / mini i simply could not justify £1700 for a new 27&quot; imac with a quad core, nor £500 for the base line mac mini, so i built myself a hackintosh, similar spec to a mac pro, for the price of a new mac mini. apple only got my money for a copy of OSX snow leopard, very reasonable at £29, and microsft the cash for a student copy of win 7 pro, again £30. now i have best of both worlds being a graphic designer i have access to all the apps i need on the mac side... yes i know adobe do PC, just the mac versions are more efficient memory wise and feel snappier. But i must confess i also like win 7, and wil;l stick to that for the odd game and 3DS Max... macs still cant do 3D Max, well in boot camp, but i preffer to run native with no hardware abstraction layer. In short each OS has its merits, its downsides and a hell of a lot of commonality. I just wish apple would hurry up and put out a Generic version of OSX for base intel hardware, without us having to jump through hoops to fake an EFI (yes i can update direct from apple)... And i would still use win 7 as well, both have a deserved place on my hard drive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well having waited for the new imac / mini i simply could not justify £1700 for a new 27&#8243; imac with a quad core, nor £500 for the base line mac mini, so i built myself a hackintosh, similar spec to a mac pro, for the price of a new mac mini. apple only got my money for a copy of OSX snow leopard, very reasonable at £29, and microsft the cash for a student copy of win 7 pro, again £30. now i have best of both worlds being a graphic designer i have access to all the apps i need on the mac side&#8230; yes i know adobe do PC, just the mac versions are more efficient memory wise and feel snappier. But i must confess i also like win 7, and wil;l stick to that for the odd game and 3DS Max&#8230; macs still cant do 3D Max, well in boot camp, but i preffer to run native with no hardware abstraction layer. In short each OS has its merits, its downsides and a hell of a lot of commonality. I just wish apple would hurry up and put out a Generic version of OSX for base intel hardware, without us having to jump through hoops to fake an EFI (yes i can update direct from apple)&#8230; And i would still use win 7 as well, both have a deserved place on my hard drive</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hugo</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-114721</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-114721</guid>
		<description>The real difference between PCs and Macs is the software.  If you want to do architecture, you need a Mac.  Not because there isn&#039;t software for the PC, but because nobody uses it.  If you want to do engineering, or statistics, or business, then use a PC.
The Mac interface has improved the PC interface through competition.  The PC hardware and price has done the same for the Mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real difference between PCs and Macs is the software.  If you want to do architecture, you need a Mac.  Not because there isn&#8217;t software for the PC, but because nobody uses it.  If you want to do engineering, or statistics, or business, then use a PC.<br />
The Mac interface has improved the PC interface through competition.  The PC hardware and price has done the same for the Mac.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: tibbs</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-113737</link>
		<dc:creator>tibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-113737</guid>
		<description>Any fair hardware / software comparison MUST also be worth around the same retail price.
If your laptop is 1/2 the price of a Mac, then its as useful a guide as a comparison as:-
Dell Precision M6400 Covet £4,715 inc VAT
Vs
MacBook Pro £1,949 inc VAT  
(both prices are from PCPro own review listing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any fair hardware / software comparison MUST also be worth around the same retail price.<br />
If your laptop is 1/2 the price of a Mac, then its as useful a guide as a comparison as:-<br />
Dell Precision M6400 Covet £4,715 inc VAT<br />
Vs<br />
MacBook Pro £1,949 inc VAT<br />
(both prices are from PCPro own review listing).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: MCDC</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-113413</link>
		<dc:creator>MCDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-113413</guid>
		<description>I had to make a transition from PC to mac (because of logic audio)... on top of that had to get a 17&quot; as I needed expresscard slot... which weighs a ton! I miss my pc... ical sucks, address book sucks, safari really sucks and the new blackberry sync really really sucks!!!... I miss office for windows, especially outlook (entourage sucks!)

So I&#039;m buying a sony CW for my office work...

Now I see why most of the world uses pc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to make a transition from PC to mac (because of logic audio)&#8230; on top of that had to get a 17&#8243; as I needed expresscard slot&#8230; which weighs a ton! I miss my pc&#8230; ical sucks, address book sucks, safari really sucks and the new blackberry sync really really sucks!!!&#8230; I miss office for windows, especially outlook (entourage sucks!)</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m buying a sony CW for my office work&#8230;</p>
<p>Now I see why most of the world uses pc&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: george bush</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-112498</link>
		<dc:creator>george bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-112498</guid>
		<description>Speed reading this I misread &quot;if consumers were forced to buy Macs in order to ‘be compatible’ with other people&quot; as &quot;consumers were forced to buy Macs in order to ‘be popular’ with other people&quot;  How ironic as that&#039;s why people buy macs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speed reading this I misread &#8220;if consumers were forced to buy Macs in order to ‘be compatible’ with other people&#8221; as &#8220;consumers were forced to buy Macs in order to ‘be popular’ with other people&#8221;  How ironic as that&#8217;s why people buy macs.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: yonsito</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-112495</link>
		<dc:creator>yonsito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-112495</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m very interested in the outcome.

I don&#039;t know whether you are allowed to install software to make win7 more &quot;mac-like&quot; but if you are:
Switcher adds exposé-ishness. KatMouse let&#039;s you scroll whereever your mouse is (instead of where the focus is).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very interested in the outcome.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether you are allowed to install software to make win7 more &#8220;mac-like&#8221; but if you are:<br />
Switcher adds exposé-ishness. KatMouse let&#8217;s you scroll whereever your mouse is (instead of where the focus is).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JulesLt</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-112288</link>
		<dc:creator>JulesLt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-112288</guid>
		<description>We price up PCs regularly at work, and in my experience the Apple markup is round 10-15% for the same spec compared with Dell.

£800 is still what we would classify as a high-end machine - you can get a usable laptop for about half that price, if all it is going to be used for is email and MS Office.

Looking at the Dell custom build pages, it&#039;s clear that the main thing that changes the price is the CPU - and that&#039;s poorly understood (people still focus on the Ghz number, when there is a low more to the performance / watt balance).

It&#039;s also the real difference between the MacBook models - between the £800 quid MacBook and the £1000+ ones.
 
Ra - it&#039;s definitely possible to install OS X on a standard PC - with variable results. But I don&#039;t see where the EU and free competition comes into it - Apple develop their own operating system for their own hardware - and there is plenty of competition in the computer systems market.

There might be a good argument for splitting the software and hardware divisions if there was real evidence that competition was being adversely affected - say if consumers were forced to buy Macs in order to &#039;be compatible&#039; with other people - if there was some Mac-only software as popular as MS Office or Internet Explorer.

But they are not - so it is little different argument from saying than Nintendo should be forced to sell any manufacturer the Gameboy firmware (like a PC you can buy the components and make your own Gameboy- there&#039;s not any special sauce in there other than the software).

Firms do not have an obligation to meet a demand for their product. And free competition from OS X is what&#039;s giving us Windows 7 (and Unix/Linux competition drives Windows Server).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We price up PCs regularly at work, and in my experience the Apple markup is round 10-15% for the same spec compared with Dell.</p>
<p>£800 is still what we would classify as a high-end machine &#8211; you can get a usable laptop for about half that price, if all it is going to be used for is email and MS Office.</p>
<p>Looking at the Dell custom build pages, it&#8217;s clear that the main thing that changes the price is the CPU &#8211; and that&#8217;s poorly understood (people still focus on the Ghz number, when there is a low more to the performance / watt balance).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also the real difference between the MacBook models &#8211; between the £800 quid MacBook and the £1000+ ones.</p>
<p>Ra &#8211; it&#8217;s definitely possible to install OS X on a standard PC &#8211; with variable results. But I don&#8217;t see where the EU and free competition comes into it &#8211; Apple develop their own operating system for their own hardware &#8211; and there is plenty of competition in the computer systems market.</p>
<p>There might be a good argument for splitting the software and hardware divisions if there was real evidence that competition was being adversely affected &#8211; say if consumers were forced to buy Macs in order to &#8216;be compatible&#8217; with other people &#8211; if there was some Mac-only software as popular as MS Office or Internet Explorer.</p>
<p>But they are not &#8211; so it is little different argument from saying than Nintendo should be forced to sell any manufacturer the Gameboy firmware (like a PC you can buy the components and make your own Gameboy- there&#8217;s not any special sauce in there other than the software).</p>
<p>Firms do not have an obligation to meet a demand for their product. And free competition from OS X is what&#8217;s giving us Windows 7 (and Unix/Linux competition drives Windows Server).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-112240</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-112240</guid>
		<description>When comparing prices i think it would be fair to include the cost of the programs that you get with the computors. I mean full versions not trial versions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When comparing prices i think it would be fair to include the cost of the programs that you get with the computors. I mean full versions not trial versions.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sir Roderick Spode</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/comment-page-1/#comment-112195</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Roderick Spode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/10/21/can-windows-7-convert-a-mac-user/#comment-112195</guid>
		<description>Namlish Ou: Snap on the 4.77MHz, although ours had a Turbo mode to take it to 8!

Ra: Have a look at the article about EFI (Extensible Firmware Interface) on Wikipedia.  Macs have an EFI rather than a BIOS.  If there is no EFI, OS X says &quot;aha this is not a Mac&quot; and won&#039;t install.  That&#039;s not to say that there are not ways around this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Namlish Ou: Snap on the 4.77MHz, although ours had a Turbo mode to take it to 8!</p>
<p>Ra: Have a look at the article about EFI (Extensible Firmware Interface) on Wikipedia.  Macs have an EFI rather than a BIOS.  If there is no EFI, OS X says &#8220;aha this is not a Mac&#8221; and won&#8217;t install.  That&#8217;s not to say that there are not ways around this issue.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

