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	<title>Comments on: How to clean up CCleaner</title>
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		<title>By: Kathie</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/08/25/piriform-has-been-busy/comment-page-1/#comment-115030</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already had the Yahoo toolbar on Firefox when I started using CCleaner (free version). It has a nice (free) anti-spy program on it. I use it every day, along with CCleaner, and my computer runs like a top -- very different from the way it was running six months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already had the Yahoo toolbar on Firefox when I started using CCleaner (free version). It has a nice (free) anti-spy program on it. I use it every day, along with CCleaner, and my computer runs like a top &#8212; very different from the way it was running six months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: ho</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/08/25/piriform-has-been-busy/comment-page-1/#comment-103699</link>
		<dc:creator>ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do use Firefox mostly nowdays, but it didn&#039;t seem to find a noticable amount of stuff to clean out there (I&#039;ve got it set to quite a small cache).

It&#039;s a Core 2 Duo 6600, 4GB Ram, 2 * 320 GB, don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever defragged anything manually on it and definitely not the last 18 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do use Firefox mostly nowdays, but it didn&#8217;t seem to find a noticable amount of stuff to clean out there (I&#8217;ve got it set to quite a small cache).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a Core 2 Duo 6600, 4GB Ram, 2 * 320 GB, don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever defragged anything manually on it and definitely not the last 18 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/08/25/piriform-has-been-busy/comment-page-1/#comment-103330</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the report: that&#039;s what I like to see. Personally I just click &quot;fix all issues&quot; on the registry section - I&#039;ve yet to be caught out by doing it. Am I right in thinking you&#039;re not a multi-browser kind of person? It&#039;s a lot more useful for Mozilla, Safari etc where the temp diectories can hide a bit out of reach.

I agree that the Yahoo toolbar is unwelcome: I note that the latest Java update tries to sneak it in, too.

(the only thing I&#039;m left wondering is, what&#039;s the hardware spec of your Vista machine, and have you ever defragged drive C?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the report: that&#8217;s what I like to see. Personally I just click &#8220;fix all issues&#8221; on the registry section &#8211; I&#8217;ve yet to be caught out by doing it. Am I right in thinking you&#8217;re not a multi-browser kind of person? It&#8217;s a lot more useful for Mozilla, Safari etc where the temp diectories can hide a bit out of reach.</p>
<p>I agree that the Yahoo toolbar is unwelcome: I note that the latest Java update tries to sneak it in, too.</p>
<p>(the only thing I&#8217;m left wondering is, what&#8217;s the hardware spec of your Vista machine, and have you ever defragged drive C?)</p>
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		<title>By: ho</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/08/25/piriform-has-been-busy/comment-page-1/#comment-103036</link>
		<dc:creator>ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: Well, on a 2.5 year old Vista install, not counting the &quot;Temp internet files&quot;, Cookies or &quot;Recycle Bin&quot;. It found just over 2GB of files it wanted to clear out, but 15% of that was the &quot;Windows Temp Folder&quot; which I clear out manually sometimes. So it seems useful, but not incredibly so. 
The registry cleaner found lots of stuff, but the suggested fix for everything I looked at seemed to be to delete the registry key and I didn&#039;t dare to let it delete everything it wanted to, but I could at least clear out some things I knew what they were.
So all in all, to me it feels like a useful tool to run every year or so, but probably not useful enough for me to remember to actually do that.

Alan: I&#039;d say that the usual way for a company to get funding is by having paying customers, though I can understand that it won&#039;t work for all companies. However, I still think it&#039;s wrong for a product called CrapCleaner to install crap on your pc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: Well, on a 2.5 year old Vista install, not counting the &#8220;Temp internet files&#8221;, Cookies or &#8220;Recycle Bin&#8221;. It found just over 2GB of files it wanted to clear out, but 15% of that was the &#8220;Windows Temp Folder&#8221; which I clear out manually sometimes. So it seems useful, but not incredibly so.<br />
The registry cleaner found lots of stuff, but the suggested fix for everything I looked at seemed to be to delete the registry key and I didn&#8217;t dare to let it delete everything it wanted to, but I could at least clear out some things I knew what they were.<br />
So all in all, to me it feels like a useful tool to run every year or so, but probably not useful enough for me to remember to actually do that.</p>
<p>Alan: I&#8217;d say that the usual way for a company to get funding is by having paying customers, though I can understand that it won&#8217;t work for all companies. However, I still think it&#8217;s wrong for a product called CrapCleaner to install crap on your pc.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho, software doesn&#039;t write itself and therefore companies need some form of funding, usually in the form of addons like toolbars.  If you don&#039;t like them simply remove them from the install routine.

If you simply click, yes, next, yes, next, yes, next then you could be doing anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho, software doesn&#8217;t write itself and therefore companies need some form of funding, usually in the form of addons like toolbars.  If you don&#8217;t like them simply remove them from the install routine.</p>
<p>If you simply click, yes, next, yes, next, yes, next then you could be doing anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cassidy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A-HA! That makes you the *ideal* tester. Please could you get CCleaner, install it without the dumb-ass toolbar, then run both the main system cleaner job *and* the registry cleaner (second tool-dock icon down), and tell us if you think it&#039;s fixed anything worth fixing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A-HA! That makes you the *ideal* tester. Please could you get CCleaner, install it without the dumb-ass toolbar, then run both the main system cleaner job *and* the registry cleaner (second tool-dock icon down), and tell us if you think it&#8217;s fixed anything worth fixing?</p>
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		<title>By: ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that that&#039;s a fair point, and if you would add that kind of information, I&#039;d probably end up complaining that you were dumbing down, so please ignore my previous comment.

Never tried any system cleaner, just a general dislike of the pointless toolbars, that seems to be included with so much software nowdays  (especially the Yahoo toolbar).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that that&#8217;s a fair point, and if you would add that kind of information, I&#8217;d probably end up complaining that you were dumbing down, so please ignore my previous comment.</p>
<p>Never tried any system cleaner, just a general dislike of the pointless toolbars, that seems to be included with so much software nowdays  (especially the Yahoo toolbar).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/08/25/piriform-has-been-busy/comment-page-1/#comment-102955</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK... I guess this boils down to &quot;what is a PC Pro reader&quot; - someone who would leave all the defaults on, or not?

Do you have a preferred system cleaner-upper that doesn&#039;t come with bloat or nagware? It&#039;s probably mor helpful to identify an alternative you&#039;re happy with, than throw eggs at one you&#039;re not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK&#8230; I guess this boils down to &#8220;what is a PC Pro reader&#8221; &#8211; someone who would leave all the defaults on, or not?</p>
<p>Do you have a preferred system cleaner-upper that doesn&#8217;t come with bloat or nagware? It&#8217;s probably mor helpful to identify an alternative you&#8217;re happy with, than throw eggs at one you&#8217;re not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant the software of the year award you mentioned earlier.
I would like if any reviews in PC Pro included warnings about this kind of things being installed (I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve noticed anything like that before), when I get asked about some software I often use the information from your reviews to make my recommendations and it would be nice if I could then at the same time mention that they should be a bit careful during the installation.
Most of the people I recommend software too just use all the defaults during the installations and have no idea how to turn off toolbars so often end up being stuck with them until I take a look at their computer at some point later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant the software of the year award you mentioned earlier.<br />
I would like if any reviews in PC Pro included warnings about this kind of things being installed (I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve noticed anything like that before), when I get asked about some software I often use the information from your reviews to make my recommendations and it would be nice if I could then at the same time mention that they should be a bit careful during the installation.<br />
Most of the people I recommend software too just use all the defaults during the installations and have no idea how to turn off toolbars so often end up being stuck with them until I take a look at their computer at some point later on.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Cassidy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ho (pardon the potential Ebonics faux-pas but you give no other name): Yes, I consider a visible, untickable toolbar as a minor sin. I also wasn&#039;t putting it forward for any awards, though if their site counter is correct and it&#039;s been downloded over 300 million times, then they deserve at least some investigation!

Roger; I&#039;m with you, I missed the other builds completely. The flash version (which I hope runs from a file server share too, being a traditionalist) sounds very cute - it might even be insertable in login scripts and startup items...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ho (pardon the potential Ebonics faux-pas but you give no other name): Yes, I consider a visible, untickable toolbar as a minor sin. I also wasn&#8217;t putting it forward for any awards, though if their site counter is correct and it&#8217;s been downloded over 300 million times, then they deserve at least some investigation!</p>
<p>Roger; I&#8217;m with you, I missed the other builds completely. The flash version (which I hope runs from a file server share too, being a traditionalist) sounds very cute &#8211; it might even be insertable in login scripts and startup items&#8230;</p>
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