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	<title>Comments on: No upgrades to Windows 7? Microsoft is doing us a favour</title>
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		<title>By: Eyes down for Windows 7 upgrade bingo &#124; PC Pro blog</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-99772</link>
		<dc:creator>Eyes down for Windows 7 upgrade bingo &#124; PC Pro blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] though the upgrade path has now been opened, I&#8217;d still echo Jon Honeyball&#8217;s earlier advice and recommend that everyone undertakes a clean install. Not only does this give you the freedom to choose whichever version of Windows 7 you want [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] though the upgrade path has now been opened, I&#8217;d still echo Jon Honeyball&#8217;s earlier advice and recommend that everyone undertakes a clean install. Not only does this give you the freedom to choose whichever version of Windows 7 you want [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-93097</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not rushing to change my  engine. Last time I did, speaking metaphorically, I found the cigar lighter;  windscreen wipers; washers and radio didn&#039;t work. Not only that, but some of my old tapes wouldn&#039;t play in the new cd system and I&#039;ve got a lot of old tapes that I like to listen to. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not rushing to change my  engine. Last time I did, speaking metaphorically, I found the cigar lighter;  windscreen wipers; washers and radio didn&#8217;t work. Not only that, but some of my old tapes wouldn&#8217;t play in the new cd system and I&#8217;ve got a lot of old tapes that I like to listen to. <img src='http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-87937</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you all rush in various directions to buy or not buy your software, let me relate a recent problem with the windows XP validation process.

Today my PC failed Vailidation report the version installed was not valid in the region I was in. Actually it turned out that the COA on my machine was from a PC manufacturers Corporate purchase batch.

How to tell:
Click Start, Right Click &#039;My Computer&#039;, Click Properties.

Look at the right hand side of the window under Registered to when you will see a string of numbers.
xxxxx-012-xxxxxxx-xxxxx
if it reads -OEM- it is OEM 
&amp; if it is -640- it is corporate or system builder.

This came from MS UK Tech support, and of course you can only tell once the software is installed 
or you have a lengthy conversation with MS on a 0870 number whilst they run a check on the COA.

Before you ask it came from a large Component &amp; PC retailer in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you all rush in various directions to buy or not buy your software, let me relate a recent problem with the windows XP validation process.</p>
<p>Today my PC failed Vailidation report the version installed was not valid in the region I was in. Actually it turned out that the COA on my machine was from a PC manufacturers Corporate purchase batch.</p>
<p>How to tell:<br />
Click Start, Right Click &#8216;My Computer&#8217;, Click Properties.</p>
<p>Look at the right hand side of the window under Registered to when you will see a string of numbers.<br />
xxxxx-012-xxxxxxx-xxxxx<br />
if it reads -OEM- it is OEM<br />
&amp; if it is -640- it is corporate or system builder.</p>
<p>This came from MS UK Tech support, and of course you can only tell once the software is installed<br />
or you have a lengthy conversation with MS on a 0870 number whilst they run a check on the COA.</p>
<p>Before you ask it came from a large Component &amp; PC retailer in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: besb</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-87850</link>
		<dc:creator>besb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pricing UK Rip off. Using preorder prices in the example
OK you get the full version (almost, -ie -mail -media player) 60% more $_£ conversion than US
Even if I accept that why is it 11% dearer in UK than Europe-  is the UK in Europe?
You cant upgrade,( ignoring the goods and bads about that) but fresh install download and install firefox then reinstall some 20 apps/games and their custom settings /templates say 10 hours @ £15 per hour Total cost UK cost £200. (150+50)
Only one oem  vista system involved. which could be happily upgraded for
 US 50$- GPB  £30
Therefore getting from vista to win7 UK  is a factor 666%
Can Microsoft  UK please address this - I am willing to download from MS US store and even give $50 in hard cash if they  dont trust British banks or credit cards
I thought this was a global solution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pricing UK Rip off. Using preorder prices in the example<br />
OK you get the full version (almost, -ie -mail -media player) 60% more $_£ conversion than US<br />
Even if I accept that why is it 11% dearer in UK than Europe-  is the UK in Europe?<br />
You cant upgrade,( ignoring the goods and bads about that) but fresh install download and install firefox then reinstall some 20 apps/games and their custom settings /templates say 10 hours @ £15 per hour Total cost UK cost £200. (150+50)<br />
Only one oem  vista system involved. which could be happily upgraded for<br />
 US 50$- GPB  £30<br />
Therefore getting from vista to win7 UK  is a factor 666%<br />
Can Microsoft  UK please address this &#8211; I am willing to download from MS US store and even give $50 in hard cash if they  dont trust British banks or credit cards<br />
I thought this was a global solution</p>
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		<title>By: big_D</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-86347</link>
		<dc:creator>big_D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best thing is always to do a complete re-install. I&#039;ve done that with Linux, OS X and Windows. A fresh start is always nice and brings fewer nasty surprises later!

It is a pain having to re-install all the apps under Windows - much easier under OS X and Linux - but it is generally worth it - just remember to deregister Adobe products and the machine, if it is registered with iTunes.

I&#039;ve been using 64-bit for a while and haven&#039;t had any driver problems.

As for the non-technical users, they either &quot;upgrade&quot; their OS when they buy a new machine or they get some tech-literate friend or service to come and do it for them... I&#039;ve upgraded several machines in the last 12 months, from Windows 95/98 or 2000 to Windows Vista - all involved copying the old data onto a USB drive and then copying it onto the new Core 2 Quad Vista machine that replaced the old one.

The only real disappointment with Vista were the start-up times. The old Pentium 133 with Windows 98 would boot to the desktop in under 5 seconds, Vista needed about 30 seconds! :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best thing is always to do a complete re-install. I&#8217;ve done that with Linux, OS X and Windows. A fresh start is always nice and brings fewer nasty surprises later!</p>
<p>It is a pain having to re-install all the apps under Windows &#8211; much easier under OS X and Linux &#8211; but it is generally worth it &#8211; just remember to deregister Adobe products and the machine, if it is registered with iTunes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using 64-bit for a while and haven&#8217;t had any driver problems.</p>
<p>As for the non-technical users, they either &#8220;upgrade&#8221; their OS when they buy a new machine or they get some tech-literate friend or service to come and do it for them&#8230; I&#8217;ve upgraded several machines in the last 12 months, from Windows 95/98 or 2000 to Windows Vista &#8211; all involved copying the old data onto a USB drive and then copying it onto the new Core 2 Quad Vista machine that replaced the old one.</p>
<p>The only real disappointment with Vista were the start-up times. The old Pentium 133 with Windows 98 would boot to the desktop in under 5 seconds, Vista needed about 30 seconds! <img src='http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-85336</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jon Honeyball, the best thing to do is get rid of Vista completely. I&#039;ve just installed Windows 7 RC1 on a new partition (thank you PCPRO) and everything works better. 
All of the Sony Vaio software and drivers work perfectly.  Even Quicken 98 which I couldn&#039;t get to work on Vista, installed without a hiccup or hesitation.
Good riddance Vista.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jon Honeyball, the best thing to do is get rid of Vista completely. I&#8217;ve just installed Windows 7 RC1 on a new partition (thank you PCPRO) and everything works better.<br />
All of the Sony Vaio software and drivers work perfectly.  Even Quicken 98 which I couldn&#8217;t get to work on Vista, installed without a hiccup or hesitation.<br />
Good riddance Vista.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-84679</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re saying it&#039;s like medicine, you don&#039;t like it but its good for you.  Trouble is Microsoft aren&#039;t doctors who are positions of power and respect, and people are gonna be angry.  An upgrade thats not an upgrade? - who needs the EU when you have kamikaze PR men like that.   I can&#039;t wait to see this pile-up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s like medicine, you don&#8217;t like it but its good for you.  Trouble is Microsoft aren&#8217;t doctors who are positions of power and respect, and people are gonna be angry.  An upgrade thats not an upgrade? &#8211; who needs the EU when you have kamikaze PR men like that.   I can&#8217;t wait to see this pile-up!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-84601</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can buy the upgrade product but you will get full retail box instead.&quot;

That read to me that Microsoft were not offering an upgrade until later. FUD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can buy the upgrade product but you will get full retail box instead.&#8221;</p>
<p>That read to me that Microsoft were not offering an upgrade until later. FUD.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-84580</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have is that my Sony laptop came with some useful stuff on it - particularly the ful version of Acrobat. Being Sony they don&#039;t supply individual installation files, so if I want to put Windows 7 on I&#039;m going to have to lose Acrobat - not exactly ideal given how much this costs if bought as a standalone package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have is that my Sony laptop came with some useful stuff on it &#8211; particularly the ful version of Acrobat. Being Sony they don&#8217;t supply individual installation files, so if I want to put Windows 7 on I&#8217;m going to have to lose Acrobat &#8211; not exactly ideal given how much this costs if bought as a standalone package.</p>
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		<title>By: muck</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/25/no-upgrades-to-windows-7-microsoft-is-doing-us-a-favour/comment-page-1/#comment-84571</link>
		<dc:creator>muck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would advise nobody to buy Win 7 in January then. You never know whether it&#039;s just an old upgrade or a new upgrade. I&#039;m confused. Why did I read this blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would advise nobody to buy Win 7 in January then. You never know whether it&#8217;s just an old upgrade or a new upgrade. I&#8217;m confused. Why did I read this blog</p>
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