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		<title>By: LUKE</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/19/the-real-facts-about-internet-explorer-8/comment-page-1/#comment-101179</link>
		<dc:creator>LUKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is just an advertisement for the Internet Explorer 8.
Most of the time, I use Chrome, then Safari, then Firefox and lastly when all fail, I use IE, whch always has some issues with it particularly, using all pc&#039;s memory and freezing up. And it doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s Vista or XP.
I&#039;m afraid I tried before and had only problems in both OS.
Microsoft really sucks in the reliability and speed except for the use of use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is just an advertisement for the Internet Explorer 8.<br />
Most of the time, I use Chrome, then Safari, then Firefox and lastly when all fail, I use IE, whch always has some issues with it particularly, using all pc&#8217;s memory and freezing up. And it doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s Vista or XP.<br />
I&#8217;m afraid I tried before and had only problems in both OS.<br />
Microsoft really sucks in the reliability and speed except for the use of use.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a great deal of talk here regarding technical issues which, whilste important, are not where the VAST majority of users generate their experience.  I&#039;m talking about Mr &amp; Mrs average Joe Surfer.  We judge our experience predominantly on speed.  And I don&#039;t care about bench marks and the like, I care about MY experience.

I had been using IE from my first experience of computers in the early 90s, up until when Chrome was launched.  I have to say, as far as speed is concerned, Chrome blows IE out of the water.  Plain and simple.

Okay, I&#039;ve had a few chrome compatability issues (Just today, coincidentally) but if we&#039;re talking compatability issues, lets talk about Vista, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a great deal of talk here regarding technical issues which, whilste important, are not where the VAST majority of users generate their experience.  I&#8217;m talking about Mr &amp; Mrs average Joe Surfer.  We judge our experience predominantly on speed.  And I don&#8217;t care about bench marks and the like, I care about MY experience.</p>
<p>I had been using IE from my first experience of computers in the early 90s, up until when Chrome was launched.  I have to say, as far as speed is concerned, Chrome blows IE out of the water.  Plain and simple.</p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve had a few chrome compatability issues (Just today, coincidentally) but if we&#8217;re talking compatability issues, lets talk about Vista, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: drew30000</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew30000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this. I decided to pdating my work PC, which is asking me if I want it right now. I&#039;ve been toiling to make websites work with IE6 and 7 for years now and was hoping that IE8 would &quot;join world community&quot; (to borrow from an Obama speech) of web standards instead of continuing down its &quot;beligerent path.&quot; (borrowing again). In particular, it doesn&#039;t make my life easier that IE8 doesn&#039;t support HTML5 or CSS3.

Furthermore, a post at How To Create (http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/ie8.html) reports &quot;several regressions since IE 7 that cause problems with the display of various pages.&quot; Just what we all need after already going to the trouble of creating IE-specific stylesheet fixes.

I&#039;m not a web standards zealot, and how much I adhear to them depend on whether I&#039;m doing the project for my own amusement or for cash. That said, they all are basically conforming to a set of accepted methods that allow them appear right on most all browsers, and it&#039;s sort of offensive that this one company continues to play by its own rules simply because it thinks it&#039;s big enough to ignore them.

I realize this concept doesn&#039;t have much support, but some revolutionary spirit would be nice, in which we could say to IE that these are the standards we are developing sites by now, get on board or be left behind. More non-geek websites should come with links to web standards browsers in their footers or sidebars that encourage people to switch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this. I decided to pdating my work PC, which is asking me if I want it right now. I&#8217;ve been toiling to make websites work with IE6 and 7 for years now and was hoping that IE8 would &#8220;join world community&#8221; (to borrow from an Obama speech) of web standards instead of continuing down its &#8220;beligerent path.&#8221; (borrowing again). In particular, it doesn&#8217;t make my life easier that IE8 doesn&#8217;t support HTML5 or CSS3.</p>
<p>Furthermore, a post at How To Create (<a href="http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/ie8.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/ie8.html</a>) reports &#8220;several regressions since IE 7 that cause problems with the display of various pages.&#8221; Just what we all need after already going to the trouble of creating IE-specific stylesheet fixes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a web standards zealot, and how much I adhear to them depend on whether I&#8217;m doing the project for my own amusement or for cash. That said, they all are basically conforming to a set of accepted methods that allow them appear right on most all browsers, and it&#8217;s sort of offensive that this one company continues to play by its own rules simply because it thinks it&#8217;s big enough to ignore them.</p>
<p>I realize this concept doesn&#8217;t have much support, but some revolutionary spirit would be nice, in which we could say to IE that these are the standards we are developing sites by now, get on board or be left behind. More non-geek websites should come with links to web standards browsers in their footers or sidebars that encourage people to switch.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathal</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/19/the-real-facts-about-internet-explorer-8/comment-page-1/#comment-79228</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run Windows 7 and have to say the Chrome takes up less resources than IE8. Granted IE8 comes with alot more out of the box features which I use on my main machine but that has 8 GB&#039;s of RAM and a Quad core processor so I dont really care how much it takes, but on my laptop with only 1GB of RAM i much prefer Chrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run Windows 7 and have to say the Chrome takes up less resources than IE8. Granted IE8 comes with alot more out of the box features which I use on my main machine but that has 8 GB&#8217;s of RAM and a Quad core processor so I dont really care how much it takes, but on my laptop with only 1GB of RAM i much prefer Chrome.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Munt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Munt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using windows 7 with internet explorer 8 and would like to add my views. Internet Exporer 8 is opening many music blog-spots and after a few seconds terminating the action claiming it can not open the site you are on !  It then &#039;crashes&#039; and you have to exit the Explorer back to Windows ! I have e-mailed Microsoft asking whether this is a deliberate policy ( as some sites are fine ) or yet another poor Microsoft product that has been foisted on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using windows 7 with internet explorer 8 and would like to add my views. Internet Exporer 8 is opening many music blog-spots and after a few seconds terminating the action claiming it can not open the site you are on !  It then &#8216;crashes&#8217; and you have to exit the Explorer back to Windows ! I have e-mailed Microsoft asking whether this is a deliberate policy ( as some sites are fine ) or yet another poor Microsoft product that has been foisted on us.</p>
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		<title>By: R3Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>R3Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article has many factual issues. I get the sense that your arguments weren&#039;t well-researched. I will now point out the truth:

Bing Weather web slice: works fine here in the United States. 

Web standards: &quot;The ACID3 test is widely regarded as the most suitable test of standards compliance.&quot; &lt; Frankly, that&#039;s bullcr*p. Acid3 tests things that are nowhere near being actual standards yet, and will probably change significantly before they do become standards. The best test for *actual* web standards is the Acid2 CSS test, which IE8 passes with a perfect score. In fact, IE8 has even better CSS 2.1 support than other browsers. 

Customizability: Microsoft means the UI. IE8&#039;s UI features can be added, removed, or moved around pretty much any way you want. And IE does have add-ons. But for ad blocking in particular, it has one built in: InPrivate filtering can be used to block ads. Just Google it. 

Performance: there&#039;s more to the web than just Google Docs. IE8 actually renders (and interacts with) GMail much faster on my machine than even Chrome does. And on 95% of the web, the difference in speed between IE8 and other browsers won&#039;t be noticeable to the eye. 

All that being said, Firefox can certainly become a much better browser with enough add-ons (which also slow it down). But IE8 has the second best out-of-box experience (after Opera, which no one seems to mention in browser comparisons).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has many factual issues. I get the sense that your arguments weren&#8217;t well-researched. I will now point out the truth:</p>
<p>Bing Weather web slice: works fine here in the United States. </p>
<p>Web standards: &#8220;The ACID3 test is widely regarded as the most suitable test of standards compliance.&#8221; &lt; Frankly, that&#8217;s bullcr*p. Acid3 tests things that are nowhere near being actual standards yet, and will probably change significantly before they do become standards. The best test for *actual* web standards is the Acid2 CSS test, which IE8 passes with a perfect score. In fact, IE8 has even better CSS 2.1 support than other browsers. </p>
<p>Customizability: Microsoft means the UI. IE8&#8217;s UI features can be added, removed, or moved around pretty much any way you want. And IE does have add-ons. But for ad blocking in particular, it has one built in: InPrivate filtering can be used to block ads. Just Google it. </p>
<p>Performance: there&#8217;s more to the web than just Google Docs. IE8 actually renders (and interacts with) GMail much faster on my machine than even Chrome does. And on 95% of the web, the difference in speed between IE8 and other browsers won&#8217;t be noticeable to the eye. </p>
<p>All that being said, Firefox can certainly become a much better browser with enough add-ons (which also slow it down). But IE8 has the second best out-of-box experience (after Opera, which no one seems to mention in browser comparisons).</p>
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		<title>By: c6ten</title>
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		<dc:creator>c6ten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who takes Microsoft&#039;s marketing department at their word needs their head examining. This sort of crap is routine, coming from Microsoft. Vista wouldn&#039;t have been such a collossal fail if MIcrosoft&#039;s critics had discounted the nonsense that attended its&#039; launch. Likewise this blog post wouldn&#039;t be necessary if we just agreed that Microsoft are liars and cheats and stopped listening to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who takes Microsoft&#8217;s marketing department at their word needs their head examining. This sort of crap is routine, coming from Microsoft. Vista wouldn&#8217;t have been such a collossal fail if MIcrosoft&#8217;s critics had discounted the nonsense that attended its&#8217; launch. Likewise this blog post wouldn&#8217;t be necessary if we just agreed that Microsoft are liars and cheats and stopped listening to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Lanphier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Lanphier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your article.

Another point:  Firefox already has a neat version of IE8 Accelerators called Kallout-Accelerator for Firefox, see https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10722

Apparently KallOut is compatible with IE8 Accelerators.  Plus, it automatically selects which accelerator to use based on the content of the text you select.

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your article.</p>
<p>Another point:  Firefox already has a neat version of IE8 Accelerators called Kallout-Accelerator for Firefox, see <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10722" rel="nofollow">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/10722</a></p>
<p>Apparently KallOut is compatible with IE8 Accelerators.  Plus, it automatically selects which accelerator to use based on the content of the text you select.</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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