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		<title>By: Steve Cassidy</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/10/the-problem-with-mobile-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-76312</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Cassidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as an aside: the Central London columnist sticks his hand up and says  - Oh, you think reception is better here? hahahaha-bonk, as I believe les Nerds are prone to say. O2 advised me a number of weeks ago to disable 3G on my iPhone, because they have broken that bit of their network and the old Edge system is way more reliable. All I have managed to do with mobile data is tether my Blackberry, which appears to perform OK when there is a signal to actually work with; however, there is an &quot;opportunity&quot; embedded in all this stuff which curiously, I&#039;ve not seen anyone take up: where is the broadband dongle speedometer?

I ask because practically the first example of broadband data access I saw was in Germany, where they made a huge fuss about &quot;UMTS&quot;, before marching in to give a client presentation on their laptop. It was toe-curlingly embarrassing, even after one gets round the national tendency to be prolix when sitting in front of Powerpoint: slides would take ages to actually grovel up (but no problem for the presenter! he had LOADS to say while we were waiting, oh dear me yes!)

Once it had lost connection twice, I jumped into a phonebox and leapt back out as NetworkMan... ok, maybe not... anyway, I had a look at the machine. A quick test download from a known fast site showed that despite being in 3G mode, the stick was struggling along at... 5k a second.

So I found them a wire and plugged that in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as an aside: the Central London columnist sticks his hand up and says  &#8211; Oh, you think reception is better here? hahahaha-bonk, as I believe les Nerds are prone to say. O2 advised me a number of weeks ago to disable 3G on my iPhone, because they have broken that bit of their network and the old Edge system is way more reliable. All I have managed to do with mobile data is tether my Blackberry, which appears to perform OK when there is a signal to actually work with; however, there is an &#8220;opportunity&#8221; embedded in all this stuff which curiously, I&#8217;ve not seen anyone take up: where is the broadband dongle speedometer?</p>
<p>I ask because practically the first example of broadband data access I saw was in Germany, where they made a huge fuss about &#8220;UMTS&#8221;, before marching in to give a client presentation on their laptop. It was toe-curlingly embarrassing, even after one gets round the national tendency to be prolix when sitting in front of Powerpoint: slides would take ages to actually grovel up (but no problem for the presenter! he had LOADS to say while we were waiting, oh dear me yes!)</p>
<p>Once it had lost connection twice, I jumped into a phonebox and leapt back out as NetworkMan&#8230; ok, maybe not&#8230; anyway, I had a look at the machine. A quick test download from a known fast site showed that despite being in 3G mode, the stick was struggling along at&#8230; 5k a second.</p>
<p>So I found them a wire and plugged that in.</p>
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		<title>By: A D Woodrow</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/10/the-problem-with-mobile-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-74023</link>
		<dc:creator>A D Woodrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the problem is not just one of reception, its also contention.  Being in the country not far from a 3G mast may get you great reception, but if there are quite a few users on that mast, using a small number of cells then the throughput will be very poor.  I bought one PAYG 3G dongle but returned it the next day because the connection was a full 7.2mbps but I was only getting bursts of data due to the number of people sharing the mast.  

Clearly without investment in infrastructure 3G will not be an acceptable route to the governments proposed 2Mb universal service obligation, but if they are to invest why not do it in ensuring FFTC is available in all areas, urban and rural.  I live just 8 miles outside Derby on a new estate with over 1500 houses but only get 700k ADSL and no good 3G coverage and it seems that I will have to move house to continue to run my growing business from home or commute to an office nearer the city which has sensible communications.  Neither is that attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the problem is not just one of reception, its also contention.  Being in the country not far from a 3G mast may get you great reception, but if there are quite a few users on that mast, using a small number of cells then the throughput will be very poor.  I bought one PAYG 3G dongle but returned it the next day because the connection was a full 7.2mbps but I was only getting bursts of data due to the number of people sharing the mast.  </p>
<p>Clearly without investment in infrastructure 3G will not be an acceptable route to the governments proposed 2Mb universal service obligation, but if they are to invest why not do it in ensuring FFTC is available in all areas, urban and rural.  I live just 8 miles outside Derby on a new estate with over 1500 houses but only get 700k ADSL and no good 3G coverage and it seems that I will have to move house to continue to run my growing business from home or commute to an office nearer the city which has sensible communications.  Neither is that attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: pendle</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/10/the-problem-with-mobile-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-73312</link>
		<dc:creator>pendle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most serious problem with my T-Mobile connection is the apparent downgrade of my service to &#039;disconnect on idle&#039;.  I took out my contract two months ago and the coverage, connection, and speed were excellent.  The day after my second direct debit was paid the drop-outs started.  If I want to get anything done I have to have the i-player on in the background to keep the connection on.  I obviously can&#039;t keep this up or I&#039;ll exceed the fair use policy.
Now I have been chatting to people who work for a 3G company and they confirm off the record that new contracts are put on a higher level of service for a while and then downgraded, just as I have been.
Any views?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most serious problem with my T-Mobile connection is the apparent downgrade of my service to &#8216;disconnect on idle&#8217;.  I took out my contract two months ago and the coverage, connection, and speed were excellent.  The day after my second direct debit was paid the drop-outs started.  If I want to get anything done I have to have the i-player on in the background to keep the connection on.  I obviously can&#8217;t keep this up or I&#8217;ll exceed the fair use policy.<br />
Now I have been chatting to people who work for a 3G company and they confirm off the record that new contracts are put on a higher level of service for a while and then downgraded, just as I have been.<br />
Any views?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/10/the-problem-with-mobile-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-73288</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Did no one get asked to input their postcode to check on the reception?&quot;

Err, well  - the whole point of them is to use when out and about. I&#039;ve got a wired broadband connection at home and in the office so I don&#039;t need it to work in them (although ironically both have excellent reception).

I think it is fair to say that mobile broadband doesn&#039;t live up to its claims. What excluse can there be for no signal at all in places in the centre of a major city?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did no one get asked to input their postcode to check on the reception?&#8221;</p>
<p>Err, well  &#8211; the whole point of them is to use when out and about. I&#8217;ve got a wired broadband connection at home and in the office so I don&#8217;t need it to work in them (although ironically both have excellent reception).</p>
<p>I think it is fair to say that mobile broadband doesn&#8217;t live up to its claims. What excluse can there be for no signal at all in places in the centre of a major city?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite frankly amazed by this article &amp; some of the comments. I use T-Mobile at work; it runs at about two thirds the speed of my home broadband and is very reliable. When I was investigating getting mobile broadband, it soon became obvious to me that the services being offered tended to be localised and limited. Did no one get asked to input their postcode to check on the reception?

Given this fact, why does anyone expect this system to work on a train, moving quickly in and out of areas that are randomly changing from receiving signals that are good, indifferent, bad and, in open countryside, even non-existent. What do you think happens when you go through a tunnel or past a hill blocking the transmitter? Well, durh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite frankly amazed by this article &amp; some of the comments. I use T-Mobile at work; it runs at about two thirds the speed of my home broadband and is very reliable. When I was investigating getting mobile broadband, it soon became obvious to me that the services being offered tended to be localised and limited. Did no one get asked to input their postcode to check on the reception?</p>
<p>Given this fact, why does anyone expect this system to work on a train, moving quickly in and out of areas that are randomly changing from receiving signals that are good, indifferent, bad and, in open countryside, even non-existent. What do you think happens when you go through a tunnel or past a hill blocking the transmitter? Well, durh.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/10/the-problem-with-mobile-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-73261</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use &#039;3&#039; mobile broadband for all my home internet access - and if you think their software is bad [which I don&#039;t particularly], you should try the T-mobile offering - it used to crash a dozen times a day.

I use mine in central London, and whilst I do mostly get HSDPA, the signal level is usually just 2 out of 5, and I find the connection speed very poor.  Whilst it does work [as long as the application, such as Outlook, doesn&#039;t time out], it just takes an incredibly long time.

Still, a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for a landline and traditional broadband !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use &#8216;3&#8242; mobile broadband for all my home internet access &#8211; and if you think their software is bad [which I don't particularly], you should try the T-mobile offering &#8211; it used to crash a dozen times a day.</p>
<p>I use mine in central London, and whilst I do mostly get HSDPA, the signal level is usually just 2 out of 5, and I find the connection speed very poor.  Whilst it does work [as long as the application, such as Outlook, doesn't time out], it just takes an incredibly long time.</p>
<p>Still, a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for a landline and traditional broadband !</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2009/06/10/the-problem-with-mobile-broadband/comment-page-1/#comment-73150</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You raise the question but, not much else. Hopefully, that&#039;s all that is needed to get the industry moving in the right direction. 

I use a &#039;3&#039; E169G for all my broadband - at home and travelling and find it quite adequate for my purposes. The times I&#039;ve bothered to use it on the Brighton to London train it generally works if slowly. But, it&#039;s the tunnels that spoil the expereince. What can you do?

I&#039;ve not tried it with the BBC iPlayer using it instead for radio. Then, I day dream about why I cant pick up the digital TV Freeview signals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You raise the question but, not much else. Hopefully, that&#8217;s all that is needed to get the industry moving in the right direction. </p>
<p>I use a &#8216;3&#8242; E169G for all my broadband &#8211; at home and travelling and find it quite adequate for my purposes. The times I&#8217;ve bothered to use it on the Brighton to London train it generally works if slowly. But, it&#8217;s the tunnels that spoil the expereince. What can you do?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not tried it with the BBC iPlayer using it instead for radio. Then, I day dream about why I cant pick up the digital TV Freeview signals!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hmm…you weren’t on a Virgin or Cross Country train were you? I commute by train every day, and I’ve found that, while I can get a reasonable 3G signal on either a Transpennine Express or National Express train, I get almost no signal when travelling by Cross Country (who mainly use the Voyager rolling stock). Such is the difference in signal, that I have stopped travelling by either Virgin or Cross Country because I know I won’t be able to broadband - I wonder if anyone else has made similar observations?&quot;

Hmm. Most of the Crosscountry stock are Voyagers, but they also have five HST sets which have been refurbed by Wabtec to exactly the same specifications as the National Express HSTs. So far as I&#039;ve noticed, I get the same problem on both Voyagers and HSTs.

I can&#039;t say whether it works better on National Express (either HSTs or 225s) as they have free wi-fi anyway, so I tend to use that - although it is clearly severely throttled as it&#039;s very slow even on a nearly empty train. Don&#039;t recall having ever tried to use  the dongle on a 185 (Transpennine), but next time I travel on one I&#039;ll give it a go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hmm…you weren’t on a Virgin or Cross Country train were you? I commute by train every day, and I’ve found that, while I can get a reasonable 3G signal on either a Transpennine Express or National Express train, I get almost no signal when travelling by Cross Country (who mainly use the Voyager rolling stock). Such is the difference in signal, that I have stopped travelling by either Virgin or Cross Country because I know I won’t be able to broadband &#8211; I wonder if anyone else has made similar observations?&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm. Most of the Crosscountry stock are Voyagers, but they also have five HST sets which have been refurbed by Wabtec to exactly the same specifications as the National Express HSTs. So far as I&#8217;ve noticed, I get the same problem on both Voyagers and HSTs.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say whether it works better on National Express (either HSTs or 225s) as they have free wi-fi anyway, so I tend to use that &#8211; although it is clearly severely throttled as it&#8217;s very slow even on a nearly empty train. Don&#8217;t recall having ever tried to use  the dongle on a 185 (Transpennine), but next time I travel on one I&#8217;ll give it a go.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree with the comments that the hardware is part of the problem. This is certainly the case, for example, with wifi routers in the home where choosing the right router can make a significant difference to the overall performance of the network.  Its a pity that telco companies don&#039;t get out into the real world a bit more often and make more efforts to ensure that they are delivering a good service rather than simply boasting about speed and coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with the comments that the hardware is part of the problem. This is certainly the case, for example, with wifi routers in the home where choosing the right router can make a significant difference to the overall performance of the network.  Its a pity that telco companies don&#8217;t get out into the real world a bit more often and make more efforts to ensure that they are delivering a good service rather than simply boasting about speed and coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Damian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often find myself on slow connections while traveling. I use a compressed proxy service*, originally for use with dial-up, but works well with mobile broadband too. I pay a moderate annual charge for the privilege, but since it speeds my browsing up 3-4x, and decreases my data usage (and so quota and roaming data costs too), it&#039;s win/win/win for me. It makes overloaded WiFi hotspots and slow broadband fairly usable.

[* My service is onspeed dot com, and I have no relationship other than as a satisfied customer. Oh, and it serves as a poor man&#039;s encypted link over open WiFi spots too! ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often find myself on slow connections while traveling. I use a compressed proxy service*, originally for use with dial-up, but works well with mobile broadband too. I pay a moderate annual charge for the privilege, but since it speeds my browsing up 3-4x, and decreases my data usage (and so quota and roaming data costs too), it&#8217;s win/win/win for me. It makes overloaded WiFi hotspots and slow broadband fairly usable.</p>
<p>[* My service is onspeed dot com, and I have no relationship other than as a satisfied customer. Oh, and it serves as a poor man's encypted link over open WiFi spots too! ]</p>
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