Comments on: Public “can’t wait” to lose personal data

By: NO2ID SUPPORTER

NO2ID SUPPORTER — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:51:13 +0000

I don’t like how this government is going to make this mandatory so the public would have no choice in having this privacy invasion card. I have made an oath to No2ID that I would even go to jail if it happens to be. I would never sign this NIR we all deserve freewill and not let anyone tell us what to do. We should stand against them and please sign the NO2ID get as many people cos I’m sure that no one wants this kinda personal information about them to be in this incompetent governments hands.

Please sign and join http://www.no2id.net/

By: Adrian Tawse

Adrian Tawse — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:43:46 +0000

I have just been reading articles from across the pond that student ID cards will help prevent students enrolling at bogus colleges and thus gaining illicit access. Except that if you can get a visa you can get an ID card. The solution is to tighten up on the issuing of visas; the ID card is entirely pointless in this respect. It has also been claimed that an ID card will help in getting a bank account and credit card in the UK. The reason banks are reluctant to issue credit cards to non-residents is not that they cannot be sure you are who you say you are. Except for regulatory purposed they could not care a damn if you called yourself Mickey Mouse, they only care that you will not skip the country. An ID card will be entirely pointless in this respect also. Come to think of it I cannot see any point in the project at all. I think Jacqui Smith must be trying to out do Tony Blair and his Weapons Of Mass Destruction load of balls.

By: Eric Legge

Eric Legge — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:54:32 +0000

This is the frightening aspect of the ID card: 50 categories of registrable fact are set out in the Bill, though they could be added to. Effectively an index to all other official and quasi-official records, through cross-references and an audit trail of all checks on the Register, the NIR would be the key to a total life history of every individual, to be retained even after death.

Because your information can be given out without your consent.
The Identity Cards Act sets out a number of different departments to whom the NIR will be available, including Revenue and Customs and all the intelligence and police agencies. The Home Secretary can authorise most of the information to be given to any government body if it is needed for any government purpose. That includes local government body.

The data will leek like a seive because of the enormous number of incompetents
and/or corrupt officials that will have access to it.

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:20:40 +0000

Errmmm, I don’t want one. I’ve no interest in it whatsoever. However, I’ll bet that government ministers are exempt.

Here’s a plan. Let’s find out everything possible about Ms Smith, then send her a nice text message (or thousand) expressing that view.

Oh dear. I must be a terrorist. These people are under my employ. They serve me. If I want them to clean my shoes they will, and like it. The obvious solution of course is to demand an election.

By: Alan

Alan — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:38:12 +0000

There are so many people who are willing to just sign over there personal details to an incompetent government, trying to scare monger the public by claiming it will help fight terrorism… what? so will they wait to see who HASN’T got a card, and say they’ve caught the terrorists? Hmm, sounds like a flawed plan to me, my details will remain private & and the ID card, I stick 2 fingers up at it.

By: robert carter

robert carter — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:34:35 +0000

Bye Bye New Labour, do not forget to take all your Hitler Manuals when you leave.

By: J.Aitken

J.Aitken — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:32:55 +0000

Serves her right its about time someone teached her and co. a lesson by giving them a taste of their own medicine. Well done keep up the good work people from a proud no2id supporter.

By: technogeist

technogeist — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:03:36 +0000

Well. Who’s up for the challenge?
Gather all available personal info on the Home Secretary, and lose it in a public place.

Let’s see her try to regain control of her personal information (without the privileges of an MP /& without police or the security services).

Perhaps then she’ll understand what the rest of us are concerned about.

By: Simon Ball

Simon Ball — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:06:53 +0000

No thanks, jacquie is well off the mark with this one…last thing i need is another laminated government loyalty card.

By: Callum

Callum — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:32:23 +0000

I have 2 problems with this identity card plan. Obviously the government can’t keep data secure, which is a worry. Also, we have national insurance cards, passports, and driving licenses. Why can’t we integrate all of this into a single card system instead of having multiple that duplicate a lot of each others’ data anyway?

Think about it. Everyone gets an NI card with a chip built in. People coming to live here from other countries also get a card, but maybe have to put their fingerprint detail on the chip as soon as they arrive instead. For the rest of us, when we want a passport or driving license we go to the post office with our paperwork, have our prints scanned, and send the card off for a replacement with our picture and a copy of our first card’s details (NI is the only database everyone is in anyway). You may have to pay a fee, but we do for a license or passport anyway. When you get your card upgraded in future (e.g. someone with a passport passes their driving test), the fee is lower because its an update of data not a new card being created. Yes, we have to pay for scanners etc through taxes. But integrating data and using existing data storage must be cheaper than buying all new storage for yet another load of personal information. And it’s a system that makes more sense and is less of a hassle. Incidently, stick a portable fingerprint scanner in police cars that checks against the system. If you need to be fingerprinted to get a licence, you can’t give false details or fail to produce your documents or find you have to prove you are in the country legally. 30 seconds after being pulled over the police know who you are and can deal with you straight away. Just as long as the database isn’t hacked!