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Posted on November 5th, 2008 by David Fearon

Windows 7 – better than Vista already

Little Timmy Danton bustled into the office this morning, flushed and breathless with Dantonistic excitement. “I installed Windows 7 on my laptop last night,” he gushed, “and it’s absolutely brilliant. It’s everything Windows Vista should have been.”

After pausing to breathe deeply, and crying a little bit with happiness, he explained that it’s all down to the whizzy performance of the pre-beta version that we have in the office. He handed me his laptop and, I have to confess, it did seem pretty snappy, even taking into account that a clean OS install is always the fastest it will ever be. There was far less of the blue spinny thing in evidence – its appearance after the most mundane actions under Vista is the main reason for my dogged persistence in sticking with XP.

I was almost convinced, but not quite. So today I’m writing this from a Windows 7 installation, on my work PC. I haven’t gone quite as loopy as Tim though, since it’s running in a Virtual PC 2007 VM. Truth to tell, I actually installed it the day before yesterday, just to start it up and prod its buttons, leer at the Vista-ness of it and shut it straight back down again. But today I’m using it as my main work PC.

The virtual machine has been given 1GB of the 2GB of RAM in the host PC, and with Virtual PC’s inability to do emulated SMP, it’s running on a single CPU core. But it *does* feel pretty fast nonetheless. So far I don’t get the impression, as with Vista, that the system is just thinking far too hard about everything I do; it just seems to happen without fuss. One Brownie point.

The bad news wasn’t long in coming. Okay, this is a pre-beta, so I shouldn’t expect miracles. But it’s frustrating that I can’t install two Microsoft applications on a Microsoft OS that’s slated to be fully compatible with Vista. Both Windows Live Mesh and Windows Messenger fail to work. Live Mesh caused a system reboot, and the install routine for Messenger came up with the amusing little message you see below:

I’m thinking ‘catastrophic failure’ is a little strong.

This being the pre-beta – rather than the beta that was shown to attendees at PDC but not distributed – the interface remains more or less identical to Windows Vista’s. This will change as far as some of the details go. But Microsoft, I’m told, has decided that the basic interface style works, although I disagree pretty strongly.

Windows Explorer in particular is a dog’s dinner of an interface with too much going on. Little arrows with no indication of what might pop up when you click one; tiny meaningless icons that suffer the same problem; that bizarre and unexpected zoom slider which appears underneath the mouse pointer when you want to change the view style; the navigation breadcrumb trail that seems to do something different every time the mouse pointer goes near it; the lack of an ‘up’ folder navigation button. Yuck, yuck, yuck. And the whole OS still suffers from the Microsoft tendency to offer you five handy routes to the same destination, when all that does is throw things out of focus and get you going in irritating circles. I want the nice easy ‘Network Connections’ entry in the Start menu so I can, yunno, look at my network connections. Instead, I still have to be subjected to the endlessly confusing Network and Sharing Center.

One thing I do like, though, is the revamp of the Documents (aka My Documents) idea. I’ve never liked the way that it’s tied to a folder buried in the C: drive somewhere. But Windows 7 has a new ‘libraries’ idea, and you can add other folders into it. More importantly, you can change the default location that documents are saved to – hurrah!

So, three things I like about Windows 7 so far:

  • It seems quick
  • It doesn’t have a stupid pretentious name
  • You’re not hamstrung to a particular Documents path

Three things I don’t like about Windows 7 so far:

  • There’s still no simple, one-click way of getting to Network Connections
  • Messenger and Live Mesh don’t work (although I’m prepared to admit this might be a VM problem)
  • The interface still suffers from complexity and, by the look of things, that isn’t going to change significantly

I have to say though, that so far I reckon Windows 7 is already better than Vista.

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18 Responses to “ Windows 7 – better than Vista already ”

  1. breathless Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 3:46 am

    Windows 7 – better than Vista already…

    Bookmarked your post over at Blog Bookmarker.com!…

     
  2. s Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 10:24 am

    Hi,

    Thanks for the honest review!

    Do you know where I can get my hands on a version of Windows 7 to play with?

     
  3. TimoGunt Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Couldn’t you just add a quick launch to network connections. It takes about 5 seconds to do which will then give you a simple, one-click way of getting to Network Connections

     
  4. Mike G Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:42 am

    You’ve been able to move the location of My Documents since before Windows XP…

     
  5. David Peel Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:51 am

    Great to get a review from someone actually using the new interface. I have to disagree with your comments about Explorer in Vista. I think you’re too used to the old way of doing things – it is different and takes a bit of getting used to. You don’t need an up arrow any more, because you can click on the previous ‘breadcrumb’ and you can also click on the one 4 levels back instead of clicking the up arrow four times! When you click inside the address bar, it selects the path, which is confusing at first, but is actually very useful when you need to copy and paste it somewhere. I’d never noticed the zoom slider – thanks, it is interesting – but I simply choose the view I want, like you could in XP.

     
  6. TonyM Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    OMG… You *really* don’t know how to change the path of the My Documents folder in Windows (Vista or XP)? And you do reviews for a living…?

     
  7. pete Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Does it still have the annoying questions like user access control (i know you can turn it off in vista) and does it still ask you if your sure you want to perform this task all the time.

     
  8. yesyes Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    I’d have to agree with Mike G and TonyM.
    You have been able to change the location of My Document for nearly a decade.
    XP: Start -> right click on My Documents -> Properties -> Move…
    It even asks you if you want to move the content of the existing My Documents folder to the new location.

     
  9. Greg Says:
    November 6th, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    @Pete
    Yes it does have UAC, but this can be easily turned off.

     
  10. PO at MS Bash Says:
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:10 am

    Maybe MS will add a WIndows 3.1 emulation buttton in Windows 7 for you. Although it would need to be big and right in the middle of the screen I think.

     
  11. David Fearon Says:
    November 7th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Good idea PO! I miss the Win3.1 clock applet. Maybe they could stick a RISC OS emulation mode in there too. I’ll ask.

     
  12. Deadman Says:
    November 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    The latest beta version of Windows Live Messenger installed fine on my Win7 install!

     
  13. technogeist Says:
    November 7th, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Quick Microsoft!!! Ship it NOW! Before any bloated extras get thrown in. :p

     
  14. WC Says:
    November 10th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    I sincerely hope Win7 is better than Vista. I myself have not even truly upgraded to Vista as yet aside from a new laptop that came with it, which I use on occasion. XP has been stable and Vista never warranted a serious look over it’s predecessor. My only concern is that this is the pre-beta version being reviewed which is typically far from the release version. In between now and next year when it is supposed to be release Microsoft could as well throw a bucket load of useless or unnecessary bloatware into Win7 and crank out another Vista.

    Oh and please please please get rid of that annoying Vista feature that has to asks me every single time if I want to run a program or allow a program to be run.

     
  15. de-void Says:
    November 10th, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    DO NOT TURN UAC OFF!!!

    Anyone who turns off User Account Control (UAC) is asking to be pwned.

    Whether or not your user account has admin rights, when running Vista under normal circumstances, you user accounts only has normal user rights. If you run an app that needs admin rights, Vista steps in and asks you for permission to run the app under elevated “full admin” rights.

    If you turn off UAC, you are essentially giving any app that runs on your machine – valid or malicious, rights to run as full admin by default.

    If you turn off UAC and end up getting hosed, you’ve only got yourself to blame.

    If you’re running Vista and are seeing too many UAC prompts, make sure you’ve installed Vista SP1. If you’re STILL seeing UAC popups where you don’t think there should be any, contact the vendors of the apps you’re using as they need to update their code to no longer require admin rights in order to run.

    FWIW, I have been running Win7 for several months now and have only seen UAC pop up when I’ve explicity elevated an app to run in admin mode. Other than that, it just sits there out of view, watching my back for me.

     
  16. technogeist Says:
    November 14th, 2008 at 10:31 pm

    I tried Win7 on Virtual PC and it certainly seems to be an improvement over Vista RTM/Vista SP1.
    I didn’t give it much memory (640MB), but just enough to get by with. Performance was noticeably improved when compared to Vista SP1 under the same conditions.
    It’s still far too early to say what the final system load will be at release, but I’m more hopeful that this will cope with less-powerful systems than Vista demands.

    I don’t currently use Windows on the desktop, but I do have to provide end-user support for all the Windows versions, so they’re all running virtualised, that way I can bring up whatever version the customer is using.

    I’m currently using VirtualBox, which has support for VMware’s .vmdk disk images and runs on Mac OS-X as well as Linux, Solaris, and of course Windows.

     
  17. Brian Says:
    November 15th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    So far, I’m loving it. I’ve had it installed on my laptop as a dual boot setup with XP since the night of the original “leak” I personally think it is much better than Vista, faster and less of a resource hog. It has crashed a couple times, had to reboot…but what the hell, it’s not a finished copy. I just found an activation code, so no more activation nag.

    To the person asking where to find a copy, here you go: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4475431

    Download it, burn to a DVD. Insert DVD, boot from disc. Make sure your boot order is set to cd/dvd rom FIRST in the computers BIO’s. Install. When asked for a registration key, leave blank. Just continue on. You’ll get 30 days fully functional. There are ways to “rearm” every 30 days for an additional 30 days 3 times. There is also a list of 15 “MAK” keys floating around. Google it. If you use this list of keys, IT DOES WORK. You’ll more than likely have to call microsoft’s toll free automated activation line and activate it over the phone. Have fun!

     
  18. technogeist Says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 12:17 am

    If you haven’t seen the alternative UI features yet, then look for the ‘bluebadge’ patch.

     

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