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		<title>By: devicegeek</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/10/28/windows-7-device-management/comment-page-1/#comment-48841</link>
		<dc:creator>devicegeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Device Stage does not require any new driver code to be written, nor does it require anything to be packaged with the device drivers. To look custom, it does require some new XML and graphics, these get packaged, signed and posted on Microsoft&#039;s web service or they can be installed like other software/drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Device Stage does not require any new driver code to be written, nor does it require anything to be packaged with the device drivers. To look custom, it does require some new XML and graphics, these get packaged, signed and posted on Microsoft&#8217;s web service or they can be installed like other software/drivers.</p>
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		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/10/28/windows-7-device-management/comment-page-1/#comment-15015</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is more &#039;value-added&#039; drivers, its the reason why drivers are 200mb these days instead of like 50k which is what the real driver takes, why cant hardwre vendors admit that their hardware is boring. ITs about what i can do, not who i bought it from, its about the content and quality software, something microsoft has never really understood.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/10/28/windows-7-device-management/comment-page-1/#comment-14925</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I work for a hardware vendor and can clear up a couple of things:
1) The code/description for the Device Stage screen for your device goes in a device&#039;s drivers - so, if you don&#039;t install the drivers, you&#039;ll get either nothing, or a generic one from Microsoft depending on what kind of device it is.  It&#039;s definitely not &quot;autorun for devices&quot;
2) There is no charge for vendors to make use of this - it&#039;s just extra stuff we need to code when we write the drivers.
3) We&#039;re fairly free to do what we like to the UI, but Microsoft do have some &quot;recommendations&quot; that if you don&#039;t follow, you won&#039;t get your driver bundled.
4) We plan on doing a fairly generic one for most of our devices rather than customising it a great deal for each device.  We fully expect most manufacturers to do the same sort of thing, so don&#039;t expect too much glare and glitz with fifty different looks for the 50 devices you&#039;ve got around (thankfully).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I work for a hardware vendor and can clear up a couple of things:<br />
1) The code/description for the Device Stage screen for your device goes in a device&#8217;s drivers &#8211; so, if you don&#8217;t install the drivers, you&#8217;ll get either nothing, or a generic one from Microsoft depending on what kind of device it is.  It&#8217;s definitely not &#8220;autorun for devices&#8221;<br />
2) There is no charge for vendors to make use of this &#8211; it&#8217;s just extra stuff we need to code when we write the drivers.<br />
3) We&#8217;re fairly free to do what we like to the UI, but Microsoft do have some &#8220;recommendations&#8221; that if you don&#8217;t follow, you won&#8217;t get your driver bundled.<br />
4) We plan on doing a fairly generic one for most of our devices rather than customising it a great deal for each device.  We fully expect most manufacturers to do the same sort of thing, so don&#8217;t expect too much glare and glitz with fifty different looks for the 50 devices you&#8217;ve got around (thankfully).</p>
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		<title>By: LinuxGuyFromRI</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/10/28/windows-7-device-management/comment-page-1/#comment-14820</link>
		<dc:creator>LinuxGuyFromRI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like just a re-skinning of the Mobile Device Center that&#039;s in Vista now. All those same options are there, just buried in different menu options depending on the device you have connected. Yet another Windows release that is nothing more than a paint job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like just a re-skinning of the Mobile Device Center that&#8217;s in Vista now. All those same options are there, just buried in different menu options depending on the device you have connected. Yet another Windows release that is nothing more than a paint job.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt D.</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/10/28/windows-7-device-management/comment-page-1/#comment-14814</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is this autorun?

Obviously we don&#039;t have the technical details but it would seem to me the easiest solution would be to look at the device ID and present a user with a menu of options customized to this &quot;supported device&quot;. The use of &quot;supported device&quot;, along with Microsoft&#039;s past history, seems to indicate, at least to me, that this &quot;menu&quot; will reside on the computer. The only risk I can see as a virus entry point is if the manufacturer screws up. This is pretty much the same boat we are in today and isn&#039;t inherently Microsoft&#039;s fault.

Now, I&#039;ll agree that I&#039;m basing my opinion on assumptions that may or may not be true, however, a statement like &quot;it&#039;s autorun for mobile phones&quot; is completely unsubstantiated and you provide absolutely no evidence to back this claim up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is this autorun?</p>
<p>Obviously we don&#8217;t have the technical details but it would seem to me the easiest solution would be to look at the device ID and present a user with a menu of options customized to this &#8220;supported device&#8221;. The use of &#8220;supported device&#8221;, along with Microsoft&#8217;s past history, seems to indicate, at least to me, that this &#8220;menu&#8221; will reside on the computer. The only risk I can see as a virus entry point is if the manufacturer screws up. This is pretty much the same boat we are in today and isn&#8217;t inherently Microsoft&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ll agree that I&#8217;m basing my opinion on assumptions that may or may not be true, however, a statement like &#8220;it&#8217;s autorun for mobile phones&#8221; is completely unsubstantiated and you provide absolutely no evidence to back this claim up.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/10/28/windows-7-device-management/comment-page-1/#comment-14769</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds like a powerful new virus distribution channel.

It&#039;s &#039;autorun&#039; for mobile phones.

When will computer and software manufacturers learn to stop running untrusted software on my computer just because I inserted some media into my computer?</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s &#8216;autorun&#8217; for mobile phones.</p>
<p>When will computer and software manufacturers learn to stop running untrusted software on my computer just because I inserted some media into my computer?</p>
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