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		<title>By: Robert Lukehart</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/16/will-apple-or-android-get-in-my-pocket-2/comment-page-1/#comment-408760</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Lukehart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 11:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for the whole lot!</description>
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		<title>By: Hostpundit - Hosting and Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google shows off masked Android handset</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hostpundit - Hosting and Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google shows off masked Android handset</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: scape</title>
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		<dc:creator>scape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am 50/50...yea everything seems to be beta with google these days, mostly b/c of the influx of off-the-net coders and their newish &#039;open&#039; look at things, but in all honesty gmail and chrome are top quality compared to my once-beloved comparatives... but to say phone so quickly? i just don&#039;t know either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am 50/50&#8230;yea everything seems to be beta with google these days, mostly b/c of the influx of off-the-net coders and their newish &#8216;open&#8217; look at things, but in all honesty gmail and chrome are top quality compared to my once-beloved comparatives&#8230; but to say phone so quickly? i just don&#8217;t know either.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, 

&quot;And too much of it breaks on a semi-regular basis. This tarnishes everything else Google does.&quot;

i see what you are saying but I think the &quot;beta&quot; tag is honest in my opinion. I like it. It speaks of the ongoing improvement that all software (life?) needs.

I&#039;m thoroughly fed up with apps that are branded &quot;released to manufacturing&quot; or similar nomenclature when, in fact, they&#039;re a load of crap and may as well be called beta or even alpha.

And from personal experience (I use Google search, mail, docs, pIcasa, reader), their apps are quicker, less bloated, and less prone to downtime.

I still have a trust issue with Google, but I&#039;d trust Google uptime far more than any IT department in any of the many companies I&#039;ve worked for (all FTSE 350).

I&#039;m rambling now - but you get my point.

BR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, </p>
<p>&#8220;And too much of it breaks on a semi-regular basis. This tarnishes everything else Google does.&#8221;</p>
<p>i see what you are saying but I think the &#8220;beta&#8221; tag is honest in my opinion. I like it. It speaks of the ongoing improvement that all software (life?) needs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thoroughly fed up with apps that are branded &#8220;released to manufacturing&#8221; or similar nomenclature when, in fact, they&#8217;re a load of crap and may as well be called beta or even alpha.</p>
<p>And from personal experience (I use Google search, mail, docs, pIcasa, reader), their apps are quicker, less bloated, and less prone to downtime.</p>
<p>I still have a trust issue with Google, but I&#8217;d trust Google uptime far more than any IT department in any of the many companies I&#8217;ve worked for (all FTSE 350).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rambling now &#8211; but you get my point.</p>
<p>BR.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ockenden</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/16/will-apple-or-android-get-in-my-pocket-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8880</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Ockenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd,

Go back and re-read my comment. I wasn&#039;t specifically talking about Android - my point was about user perception of Google&#039;s product line-up as a whole. And I think that point stands - too much of that line up is beta, always has been, and seems like it always will be. And too much of it breaks on a semi-regular basis. This tarnishes everything else Google does.

With Android Google might have produced a gold nugget, but many people will be (at least initially) sceptical that under the surface it&#039;s simply a gold plated turd. 

P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd,</p>
<p>Go back and re-read my comment. I wasn&#8217;t specifically talking about Android &#8211; my point was about user perception of Google&#8217;s product line-up as a whole. And I think that point stands &#8211; too much of that line up is beta, always has been, and seems like it always will be. And too much of it breaks on a semi-regular basis. This tarnishes everything else Google does.</p>
<p>With Android Google might have produced a gold nugget, but many people will be (at least initially) sceptical that under the surface it&#8217;s simply a gold plated turd. </p>
<p>P.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mr. Ockenden &amp; Mr. Wright

What version of the SDK are you both using? 0.9b is currently available and the London demonstration is 1.0 that has already received T-Mobile&#039;s army of lawyers blessing for legal liability and indemnity.

Last November&#039;s &quot;early preview&quot; was lacking to be sure but from your above comments, it sounds like you haven&#039;t upgraded to 0.9b.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mr. Ockenden &amp; Mr. Wright</p>
<p>What version of the SDK are you both using? 0.9b is currently available and the London demonstration is 1.0 that has already received T-Mobile&#8217;s army of lawyers blessing for legal liability and indemnity.</p>
<p>Last November&#8217;s &#8220;early preview&#8221; was lacking to be sure but from your above comments, it sounds like you haven&#8217;t upgraded to 0.9b.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.

They currently have the same problem with Chrome. For an initial beta, it isn&#039;t bad. But it won&#039;t make it onto my main machines at home, or the production machines in the office, until the beta phase has finished and a final release is available.

The Android will face the same problem with me. I am very interested in the concept, but if the code quality isn&#039;t up to much, or the &#039;phone is releaded in Beta form, I won&#039;t be going anywhere near it.

A colleague here in the office has written a few simple apps on the emulator in the dev pack and wants to get one as soon as it is released... I&#039;ll wait and see how it handles once he has one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.</p>
<p>They currently have the same problem with Chrome. For an initial beta, it isn&#8217;t bad. But it won&#8217;t make it onto my main machines at home, or the production machines in the office, until the beta phase has finished and a final release is available.</p>
<p>The Android will face the same problem with me. I am very interested in the concept, but if the code quality isn&#8217;t up to much, or the &#8216;phone is releaded in Beta form, I won&#8217;t be going anywhere near it.</p>
<p>A colleague here in the office has written a few simple apps on the emulator in the dev pack and wants to get one as soon as it is released&#8230; I&#8217;ll wait and see how it handles once he has one.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ockenden</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/16/will-apple-or-android-get-in-my-pocket-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8832</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Ockenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The big problem Google has is the user perception that they don&#039;t seem to care about code quality. So much of their stuff seems to have a permanent &#039;beta&#039; tacked onto the logo, and breaks on a regular basis. That&#039;s not something you want when it comes to receiving that important email (or dialling that 999 call). Of course, Android might be perfect, but it&#039;ll take a lot to convince me (and other google users) that it is.

I&#039;ve covered this in a bit more depth in the Mobile &amp; Wireless column in issue 170.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big problem Google has is the user perception that they don&#8217;t seem to care about code quality. So much of their stuff seems to have a permanent &#8216;beta&#8217; tacked onto the logo, and breaks on a regular basis. That&#8217;s not something you want when it comes to receiving that important email (or dialling that 999 call). Of course, Android might be perfect, but it&#8217;ll take a lot to convince me (and other google users) that it is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve covered this in a bit more depth in the Mobile &amp; Wireless column in issue 170.</p>
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