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		<title>By: Zonealarm Pro 7.0</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/12/zonealarm-8-and-27-steps-back-to-a-working-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-28028</link>
		<dc:creator>Zonealarm Pro 7.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Zonealarm Pro 7.0...&lt;/strong&gt;

An interesting post by a bloger made me......</description>
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<p>An interesting post by a bloger made me&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: R Stuart-Grenville</title>
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		<dc:creator>R Stuart-Grenville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and there was I, thinking that all the trouble I&#039;ve had with ZoneAlarm was my own fault....

Following the instructions that Barry Collins passed on, however, ( and I was amazed at the number of files that remained after supposedly uninstalling ZA ) I&#039;ve now managed to remove all but one file (Access denied). Specifically SPYBLOCK.DLL version 2.3.0.11 in C:\Program Files\ZoneAlarmSB\bar\1.bin. Can anyone please suggest how this final one can be winkled out?
As an aside, since shutting down ZA, I could swear my machine boots and runs faster than before - but perhaps this is nobbut wishful thinking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and there was I, thinking that all the trouble I&#8217;ve had with ZoneAlarm was my own fault&#8230;.</p>
<p>Following the instructions that Barry Collins passed on, however, ( and I was amazed at the number of files that remained after supposedly uninstalling ZA ) I&#8217;ve now managed to remove all but one file (Access denied). Specifically SPYBLOCK.DLL version 2.3.0.11 in C:\Program Files\ZoneAlarmSB\bar\1.bin. Can anyone please suggest how this final one can be winkled out?<br />
As an aside, since shutting down ZA, I could swear my machine boots and runs faster than before &#8211; but perhaps this is nobbut wishful thinking!</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, I clicked &#039;download upates&#039; from my Zone Alarm AVG the other day. However, I was tricked in not downloading the software updates but had my AVG changed in Zone Alarms&#039; Internet Suite - which is not what I wanted! I was dubbed into making this unwanted change! I tried to delete the ZA Internet file in the &#039;Add and Remove&#039; section but it won&#039;t allow me! Can anyone help? I just want to go back to my old ZA AVG. I have Win XP.

Thanks!

Mo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, I clicked &#8216;download upates&#8217; from my Zone Alarm AVG the other day. However, I was tricked in not downloading the software updates but had my AVG changed in Zone Alarms&#8217; Internet Suite &#8211; which is not what I wanted! I was dubbed into making this unwanted change! I tried to delete the ZA Internet file in the &#8216;Add and Remove&#8217; section but it won&#8217;t allow me! Can anyone help? I just want to go back to my old ZA AVG. I have Win XP.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Mo</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Deasy</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/12/zonealarm-8-and-27-steps-back-to-a-working-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-9609</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Deasy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too got sucker punched by Checkpoint&#039;s Zone Alarm 8 &quot;update&quot;. After a clean install on XP sp3, I get system crashes, 15 min shut down times, 20+ min boot times, disappearing task bar... seems like zone alarm itself is some kind of virus!

To make matters worse, the symptoms didnt take effect for several days, so it wasnt apparent that zone alarm was the cause. That means hours spent trying find out what was going on. Eventually, I also found, and followed instructions on the ZA forum to remove all the junk their program leaves behind, AFTER &quot;uninstalling&quot; it...

But the junk program removal instructions didnt work for me.  Following the instructions seems to have resolved the instability, and the shut down problems, but I&#039;m left with a 20+ min boot time... after the complete uninstall.

Of course, zone alarms &quot;customer service&quot; is non-existent, but I see now they are offering a BETA patch for v8, encouraging it&#039;s &quot;valued customers&quot; to report any problems they have with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too got sucker punched by Checkpoint&#8217;s Zone Alarm 8 &#8220;update&#8221;. After a clean install on XP sp3, I get system crashes, 15 min shut down times, 20+ min boot times, disappearing task bar&#8230; seems like zone alarm itself is some kind of virus!</p>
<p>To make matters worse, the symptoms didnt take effect for several days, so it wasnt apparent that zone alarm was the cause. That means hours spent trying find out what was going on. Eventually, I also found, and followed instructions on the ZA forum to remove all the junk their program leaves behind, AFTER &#8220;uninstalling&#8221; it&#8230;</p>
<p>But the junk program removal instructions didnt work for me.  Following the instructions seems to have resolved the instability, and the shut down problems, but I&#8217;m left with a 20+ min boot time&#8230; after the complete uninstall.</p>
<p>Of course, zone alarms &#8220;customer service&#8221; is non-existent, but I see now they are offering a BETA patch for v8, encouraging it&#8217;s &#8220;valued customers&#8221; to report any problems they have with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: K Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problems at my end were not so bad but with XP Pro booting up, switching user and shutting down took up to 5 minutes.

The only solution was to reinstall the older version but this required completely removing v.8 

I followed instructions below on the ZA forum.  Seemed to work! My PC at work is also XP and seems to be fine so far with V8 although opening programs like EXCEL seems to be taking longer than ever.  Just bought a three licence two year code.  Response from Zone Alarm is appalling.   

http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=AllowAccess&amp;message.id=103</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problems at my end were not so bad but with XP Pro booting up, switching user and shutting down took up to 5 minutes.</p>
<p>The only solution was to reinstall the older version but this required completely removing v.8 </p>
<p>I followed instructions below on the ZA forum.  Seemed to work! My PC at work is also XP and seems to be fine so far with V8 although opening programs like EXCEL seems to be taking longer than ever.  Just bought a three licence two year code.  Response from Zone Alarm is appalling.   </p>
<p><a href="http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=AllowAccess&amp;message.id=103" rel="nofollow">http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=AllowAccess&amp;message.id=103</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dominik</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/12/zonealarm-8-and-27-steps-back-to-a-working-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-8694</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since last Monday, Check Point has stopped to ship version 8 with the automatic upgrade system. 

This information is from a ZA forum administrator post from yesterday (Friday 12th). In this post, they also recommend to downgrade to version 7.  To my knowledge, it is the first public statement from Checkpoint that something could be wrong with version 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since last Monday, Check Point has stopped to ship version 8 with the automatic upgrade system. </p>
<p>This information is from a ZA forum administrator post from yesterday (Friday 12th). In this post, they also recommend to downgrade to version 7.  To my knowledge, it is the first public statement from Checkpoint that something could be wrong with version 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Raybould</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/12/zonealarm-8-and-27-steps-back-to-a-working-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-8682</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Raybould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that Zone Labs are one of those faceless companies. I&#039;ve used them almost from day one, religiously paying for their Pro versions and suites etc. I had problem after problem and contacted support on numerous occasions. They always had two type of response
1. A sterile &quot;one size fits all&quot; that never really applied to my problem was about as close as they would all
2. No reply

I got so sick of it, I decided to un-install it and allow some other poor beta tester to pull their hair out. I&#039;d foolishly return to a new version some weeks/months later only to find a new problem that also received no support from them.

To add insult to injury they have a &quot;We care about our customer&#039;s please tell us why you&#039;re removing this software&quot;.....................and then we&#039;ll ignore your views and simply press on with another bug filled version</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that Zone Labs are one of those faceless companies. I&#8217;ve used them almost from day one, religiously paying for their Pro versions and suites etc. I had problem after problem and contacted support on numerous occasions. They always had two type of response<br />
1. A sterile &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; that never really applied to my problem was about as close as they would all<br />
2. No reply</p>
<p>I got so sick of it, I decided to un-install it and allow some other poor beta tester to pull their hair out. I&#8217;d foolishly return to a new version some weeks/months later only to find a new problem that also received no support from them.</p>
<p>To add insult to injury they have a &#8220;We care about our customer&#8217;s please tell us why you&#8217;re removing this software&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and then we&#8217;ll ignore your views and simply press on with another bug filled version</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/09/12/zonealarm-8-and-27-steps-back-to-a-working-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-8667</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the instructions. I stress we&#039;ve not tested these out, and can&#039;t be held liable for any damages suffered as a result.  These instructions are (supposedly) for removing ZoneAlarm 8 on Vista:

01.) Restart your computer
02.) When you see the screen go black and it starts booting back up keep tapping the &quot;F8&quot; key (at the top of your keyboard)
03.) This should bring up a menu. Choose Safe Mode off the menu by using the arrow keys on the keyboard to highlight Safe Mode and press Enter
04.) If you get a message asking to go to Safe Mode, choose Yes. If you get a help and support window, close this.
05.) Once you are at the desktop, Click Start, Computer
06.) Click Tools, Folder Options, View Tab

NOTE: If you cannot see the menu bar with the Tools menu on it, you have to press the Alt-key on the keyboard and the menu bar should then be visible.

07.) Place a dot next to &quot;Show Hidden Files and Folders&quot;
08.) Remove the check from &quot;Hide Protected Operating System Files
(Recommended)&quot;
09.) Choose Yes to the warning
10.) Click OK
11.) Double click C:

Note: In the future steps if you do not see any files or folders, please click the &quot;Show Files&quot; link to view them.

12.) Double Click the Program Files Folder
13.) Right Click the Zone Labs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes

NOTE: If you cannot delete the entire folder, please open the Zone Labs -&gt; ZoneAlarm folder and delete out as many of the files listed here as possible.

14.) Close this window
15.) Click Start, Computer
16.) Double Click C:
17.) Double Click the Windows Folder
18.) Right Click the Internet Logs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes
19.) Double Click the System32 Folder
20.) Right Click the Zone Labs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes

NOTE: If you cannot delete the entire folder, please open the Zone Labs folder and delete out as many of the files listed here as possible.

21.) Locate and delete the following files in the System32 folder if they are present:

- vsconfig.xml
- vsxml.dll
- vsregexp.dll
- vsdata.dll
- vsdata95.vxd
- vsdatant.sys
- vsmonapi.dll
- vspubapi.dll
- vsinit.dll
- vsutil.dll
- vswmi.dll
- zlcommdb.dll
- zlcomm.dll
- zpeng24.dll
- zpeng25.dll


22.) Clear your Temp Directory per the instructions below.

- Go to Start -&gt; Run
- Type %temp% and click OK
- Select all of these files and delete them

23.) Clear the Prefetch folder per the instructions below.

- Go to Start -&gt; Run
- Type Prefetch and click OK
- Select all of these files and delete them

NOTE: If you do not have the Run option on the Start menu, you can press and hold the Windows logo key and tap the letter R.

24.) Remove the necessary registry entries:

*Important Advisory: Deleting registry entries incorrectly may cause serious problems to your operating system, which may necessitate the need to reinstall it. Please make sure you are able to perform these deletions correctly before you decide to edit the entries. If you are not sure, you should seek help from someone who is familiar with editing the registry.

For information about how to edit the registry in Windows, from your desktop, click Start -&gt; Run -&gt; and type regedit. Click on Help -&gt; Help Topics. Under the Contents tab, click Change Keys and Values (this may be found under the How to... section).

Also, you should always make a backup of the registry before editing it. You can find this in the same section of the Help files.


To remove the needed registry entries, go to Start -&gt; Run and type in regedit. Choose OK, and use the folders on the left side of the Registry Editor window to navigate to the specified directories below. Note that you will remove the entire folder specified (eg. Zone Labs, vsmon, vsdatant):

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Zone Labs
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\vsmon
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\vsdatant


25.) Close this window, then empty your recycle bin.
26.) Restart the computer.
27.) Try to install the latest version again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the instructions. I stress we&#8217;ve not tested these out, and can&#8217;t be held liable for any damages suffered as a result.  These instructions are (supposedly) for removing ZoneAlarm 8 on Vista:</p>
<p>01.) Restart your computer<br />
02.) When you see the screen go black and it starts booting back up keep tapping the &#8220;F8&#8243; key (at the top of your keyboard)<br />
03.) This should bring up a menu. Choose Safe Mode off the menu by using the arrow keys on the keyboard to highlight Safe Mode and press Enter<br />
04.) If you get a message asking to go to Safe Mode, choose Yes. If you get a help and support window, close this.<br />
05.) Once you are at the desktop, Click Start, Computer<br />
06.) Click Tools, Folder Options, View Tab</p>
<p>NOTE: If you cannot see the menu bar with the Tools menu on it, you have to press the Alt-key on the keyboard and the menu bar should then be visible.</p>
<p>07.) Place a dot next to &#8220;Show Hidden Files and Folders&#8221;<br />
08.) Remove the check from &#8220;Hide Protected Operating System Files<br />
(Recommended)&#8221;<br />
09.) Choose Yes to the warning<br />
10.) Click OK<br />
11.) Double click C:</p>
<p>Note: In the future steps if you do not see any files or folders, please click the &#8220;Show Files&#8221; link to view them.</p>
<p>12.) Double Click the Program Files Folder<br />
13.) Right Click the Zone Labs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes</p>
<p>NOTE: If you cannot delete the entire folder, please open the Zone Labs -&gt; ZoneAlarm folder and delete out as many of the files listed here as possible.</p>
<p>14.) Close this window<br />
15.) Click Start, Computer<br />
16.) Double Click C:<br />
17.) Double Click the Windows Folder<br />
18.) Right Click the Internet Logs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes<br />
19.) Double Click the System32 Folder<br />
20.) Right Click the Zone Labs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes</p>
<p>NOTE: If you cannot delete the entire folder, please open the Zone Labs folder and delete out as many of the files listed here as possible.</p>
<p>21.) Locate and delete the following files in the System32 folder if they are present:</p>
<p>- vsconfig.xml<br />
- vsxml.dll<br />
- vsregexp.dll<br />
- vsdata.dll<br />
- vsdata95.vxd<br />
- vsdatant.sys<br />
- vsmonapi.dll<br />
- vspubapi.dll<br />
- vsinit.dll<br />
- vsutil.dll<br />
- vswmi.dll<br />
- zlcommdb.dll<br />
- zlcomm.dll<br />
- zpeng24.dll<br />
- zpeng25.dll</p>
<p>22.) Clear your Temp Directory per the instructions below.</p>
<p>- Go to Start -&gt; Run<br />
- Type %temp% and click OK<br />
- Select all of these files and delete them</p>
<p>23.) Clear the Prefetch folder per the instructions below.</p>
<p>- Go to Start -&gt; Run<br />
- Type Prefetch and click OK<br />
- Select all of these files and delete them</p>
<p>NOTE: If you do not have the Run option on the Start menu, you can press and hold the Windows logo key and tap the letter R.</p>
<p>24.) Remove the necessary registry entries:</p>
<p>*Important Advisory: Deleting registry entries incorrectly may cause serious problems to your operating system, which may necessitate the need to reinstall it. Please make sure you are able to perform these deletions correctly before you decide to edit the entries. If you are not sure, you should seek help from someone who is familiar with editing the registry.</p>
<p>For information about how to edit the registry in Windows, from your desktop, click Start -&gt; Run -&gt; and type regedit. Click on Help -&gt; Help Topics. Under the Contents tab, click Change Keys and Values (this may be found under the How to&#8230; section).</p>
<p>Also, you should always make a backup of the registry before editing it. You can find this in the same section of the Help files.</p>
<p>To remove the needed registry entries, go to Start -&gt; Run and type in regedit. Choose OK, and use the folders on the left side of the Registry Editor window to navigate to the specified directories below. Note that you will remove the entire folder specified (eg. Zone Labs, vsmon, vsdatant):</p>
<p>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Zone Labs<br />
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\vsmon<br />
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\vsdatant</p>
<p>25.) Close this window, then empty your recycle bin.<br />
26.) Restart the computer.<br />
27.) Try to install the latest version again.</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, could you please post those 27 steps?
In my case, after failing to determine why I was paddling backwards through sludge on the Internet, the ISP, at my expense, found that ZoneAlarm was the culprit.
I should have known, as the updates failed.
It really shouldn&#039;t be for users to be treated in this way - c&#039;mon ZoneAlarm !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, could you please post those 27 steps?<br />
In my case, after failing to determine why I was paddling backwards through sludge on the Internet, the ISP, at my expense, found that ZoneAlarm was the culprit.<br />
I should have known, as the updates failed.<br />
It really shouldn&#8217;t be for users to be treated in this way &#8211; c&#8217;mon ZoneAlarm !</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had similar experiences, working as an IT professional I get to see Zone Alarm a lot and the PC&#039;s i have encountered with this new V8 on have all been slowed to a stop and in two cases have not been able to access the Internet.

whats going on Zone Labs, you really have lost your way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had similar experiences, working as an IT professional I get to see Zone Alarm a lot and the PC&#8217;s i have encountered with this new V8 on have all been slowed to a stop and in two cases have not been able to access the Internet.</p>
<p>whats going on Zone Labs, you really have lost your way!</p>
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