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Posted on September 12th, 2008 by Barry Collins

ZoneAlarm 8 and 27 steps back to a working PC

ZoneAlarm Internet SecurityAn update to ZoneAlarm Internet Security was released the other day. I could tell because my PC started nagging me with an intensity matched only by my four-year-old daughter when she wants to watch Fifi and the Flowertots during the football.

So I succumbed (to ZoneAlarm 8, not Fifi) and spent the next three hours trying to unpick the carnage that descended on my brand new Dell laptop, after the installation stalled midway through, leaving me with no other option but to reboot the PC.

Upon reboot I found myself in a ZoneAlarm no-man’s land: not quite in ZoneAlarm7, but not fully over the border into ZoneAlarm 8 either. The ZoneAlarm icon sits proudly in my System Tray, informing me the security is “up and running” but that the “UI is still initialising”. Every time I attempt to open the software, I’m met with a Windows error message informing me the application has crashed and Vista is trying to find a solution. Guess what? It doesn’t.

The same happens if I attempt to uninstall the software. Or reinstall the new software. Or reinstall the old software. I am caught in ZoneAlarm hell – as are hundreds of others, judging by the volume of complaints on the ZoneAlarm forums.

So I pinged off an email to ZoneAlarm support (phone support costs $2.95 per minute), asking if they had any idea how I might rid my system of this malady. Four days later, I get a reply with a 27-step guide to removing Internet Security 8, which includes all manner of faintly perilous activities, such as deleting hidden folders and tweaking the Registry.

And guess what step 27 is? “Try to install the latest version again.”

You’ve got to admire such optimism.

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13 Responses to “ ZoneAlarm 8 and 27 steps back to a working PC ”

  1. Ian Wood Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    I didn’t have quite such a bad experience, but did suffer a sudden reboot mid-install of the update. Unfortunately I was in the middle of paying for the upgrade. I got to see my new license key for about a millisecond and then it was gone.
    When I did finally retreive the key I noticed the “non-shutdown” problem and then the long pauses in reaction to mouse clicks.
    The forums say roll back to v7 and everything will be OK. I’m sure it will, but I paid good money for v8. What’s most annoying is that Zonelabs are saying nothing about the problem, or timeline for a fix. I got an immediate response about my missing key, but not a word about the separate report of the additional problems. How can a new release be so broken in so many ways?
    I believe I have 30 days money back guarantee, so one more week without an update and that’s my plan. Back to Norton I guess! Symantec at least talk to you if you have a problem.

     
  2. Martin Gibbs Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    This has been a failing of ZoneLabs for a number of years – effectively getting customers to pay to be BETA testers! – and is the primary reason I switched to Kaspersky IS. I had the same generalissues with ZoneAlarm IS v7 and ForceField and will not be buying any more of their products.

    I have also experienced the same disregard for customers from Netgear on the hardware front with hopeless draft-n routers and non-existent support.

    It’s a worrying trend from vendors who regularly appeared in the A-List for a number of years.

     
  3. Mark Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    I too was once a firm believer in ZoneLabs and ZoneAlarm – from the free version and then upgrading to the full pay version. However on Version 7 I think I suffered a similar problem (as has another friend) and we both had to stay on version 6. I quickly changed to Kaspersky and have never had a problem since.

    If anybody asks me – and being in IT – they do I recommend Kaspersky and to stay away from ZoneAlarm. They have lost quite a few sales due to their hiccup with an update.

     
  4. Jonathan Newman Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    I have had similar experiences, working as an IT professional I get to see Zone Alarm a lot and the PC’s i have encountered with this new V8 on have all been slowed to a stop and in two cases have not been able to access the Internet.

    whats going on Zone Labs, you really have lost your way!

     
  5. martin Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Barry, could you please post those 27 steps?
    In my case, after failing to determine why I was paddling backwards through sludge on the Internet, the ISP, at my expense, found that ZoneAlarm was the culprit.
    I should have known, as the updates failed.
    It really shouldn’t be for users to be treated in this way – c’mon ZoneAlarm !

     
  6. Barry Collins Says:
    September 12th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Here are the instructions. I stress we’ve not tested these out, and can’t be held liable for any damages suffered as a result. These instructions are (supposedly) for removing ZoneAlarm 8 on Vista:

    01.) Restart your computer
    02.) When you see the screen go black and it starts booting back up keep tapping the “F8″ key (at the top of your keyboard)
    03.) This should bring up a menu. Choose Safe Mode off the menu by using the arrow keys on the keyboard to highlight Safe Mode and press Enter
    04.) If you get a message asking to go to Safe Mode, choose Yes. If you get a help and support window, close this.
    05.) Once you are at the desktop, Click Start, Computer
    06.) Click Tools, Folder Options, View Tab

    NOTE: If you cannot see the menu bar with the Tools menu on it, you have to press the Alt-key on the keyboard and the menu bar should then be visible.

    07.) Place a dot next to “Show Hidden Files and Folders”
    08.) Remove the check from “Hide Protected Operating System Files
    (Recommended)”
    09.) Choose Yes to the warning
    10.) Click OK
    11.) Double click C:

    Note: In the future steps if you do not see any files or folders, please click the “Show Files” link to view them.

    12.) Double Click the Program Files Folder
    13.) Right Click the Zone Labs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes

    NOTE: If you cannot delete the entire folder, please open the Zone Labs -> ZoneAlarm folder and delete out as many of the files listed here as possible.

    14.) Close this window
    15.) Click Start, Computer
    16.) Double Click C:
    17.) Double Click the Windows Folder
    18.) Right Click the Internet Logs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes
    19.) Double Click the System32 Folder
    20.) Right Click the Zone Labs Folder, click Delete, and choose Yes

    NOTE: If you cannot delete the entire folder, please open the Zone Labs folder and delete out as many of the files listed here as possible.

    21.) Locate and delete the following files in the System32 folder if they are present:

    - vsconfig.xml
    - vsxml.dll
    - vsregexp.dll
    - vsdata.dll
    - vsdata95.vxd
    - vsdatant.sys
    - vsmonapi.dll
    - vspubapi.dll
    - vsinit.dll
    - vsutil.dll
    - vswmi.dll
    - zlcommdb.dll
    - zlcomm.dll
    - zpeng24.dll
    - zpeng25.dll

    22.) Clear your Temp Directory per the instructions below.

    - Go to Start -> Run
    - Type %temp% and click OK
    - Select all of these files and delete them

    23.) Clear the Prefetch folder per the instructions below.

    - Go to Start -> Run
    - Type Prefetch and click OK
    - Select all of these files and delete them

    NOTE: If you do not have the Run option on the Start menu, you can press and hold the Windows logo key and tap the letter R.

    24.) Remove the necessary registry entries:

    *Important Advisory: Deleting registry entries incorrectly may cause serious problems to your operating system, which may necessitate the need to reinstall it. Please make sure you are able to perform these deletions correctly before you decide to edit the entries. If you are not sure, you should seek help from someone who is familiar with editing the registry.

    For information about how to edit the registry in Windows, from your desktop, click Start -> Run -> and type regedit. Click on Help -> Help Topics. Under the Contents tab, click Change Keys and Values (this may be found under the How to… section).

    Also, you should always make a backup of the registry before editing it. You can find this in the same section of the Help files.

    To remove the needed registry entries, go to Start -> Run and type in regedit. Choose OK, and use the folders on the left side of the Registry Editor window to navigate to the specified directories below. Note that you will remove the entire folder specified (eg. Zone Labs, vsmon, vsdatant):

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Zone Labs
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\vsmon
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\vsdatant

    25.) Close this window, then empty your recycle bin.
    26.) Restart the computer.
    27.) Try to install the latest version again.

     
  7. Dave Raybould Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 1:34 am

    I have to say that Zone Labs are one of those faceless companies. I’ve used them almost from day one, religiously paying for their Pro versions and suites etc. I had problem after problem and contacted support on numerous occasions. They always had two type of response
    1. A sterile “one size fits all” that never really applied to my problem was about as close as they would all
    2. No reply

    I got so sick of it, I decided to un-install it and allow some other poor beta tester to pull their hair out. I’d foolishly return to a new version some weeks/months later only to find a new problem that also received no support from them.

    To add insult to injury they have a “We care about our customer’s please tell us why you’re removing this software”…………………and then we’ll ignore your views and simply press on with another bug filled version

     
  8. Dominik Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Since last Monday, Check Point has stopped to ship version 8 with the automatic upgrade system.

    This information is from a ZA forum administrator post from yesterday (Friday 12th). In this post, they also recommend to downgrade to version 7. To my knowledge, it is the first public statement from Checkpoint that something could be wrong with version 8.

     
  9. K Chuck Says:
    September 13th, 2008 at 7:30 pm

    Problems at my end were not so bad but with XP Pro booting up, switching user and shutting down took up to 5 minutes.

    The only solution was to reinstall the older version but this required completely removing v.8

    I followed instructions below on the ZA forum. Seemed to work! My PC at work is also XP and seems to be fine so far with V8 although opening programs like EXCEL seems to be taking longer than ever. Just bought a three licence two year code. Response from Zone Alarm is appalling.

    http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=AllowAccess&message.id=103

     
  10. Joe Deasy Says:
    September 26th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    I too got sucker punched by Checkpoint’s Zone Alarm 8 “update”. After a clean install on XP sp3, I get system crashes, 15 min shut down times, 20+ min boot times, disappearing task bar… seems like zone alarm itself is some kind of virus!

    To make matters worse, the symptoms didnt take effect for several days, so it wasnt apparent that zone alarm was the cause. That means hours spent trying find out what was going on. Eventually, I also found, and followed instructions on the ZA forum to remove all the junk their program leaves behind, AFTER “uninstalling” it…

    But the junk program removal instructions didnt work for me. Following the instructions seems to have resolved the instability, and the shut down problems, but I’m left with a 20+ min boot time… after the complete uninstall.

    Of course, zone alarms “customer service” is non-existent, but I see now they are offering a BETA patch for v8, encouraging it’s “valued customers” to report any problems they have with it…

     
  11. Mo Says:
    November 2nd, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    As usual, I clicked ‘download upates’ from my Zone Alarm AVG the other day. However, I was tricked in not downloading the software updates but had my AVG changed in Zone Alarms’ Internet Suite – which is not what I wanted! I was dubbed into making this unwanted change! I tried to delete the ZA Internet file in the ‘Add and Remove’ section but it won’t allow me! Can anyone help? I just want to go back to my old ZA AVG. I have Win XP.

    Thanks!

    Mo

     
  12. R Stuart-Grenville Says:
    December 20th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    …and there was I, thinking that all the trouble I’ve had with ZoneAlarm was my own fault….

    Following the instructions that Barry Collins passed on, however, ( and I was amazed at the number of files that remained after supposedly uninstalling ZA ) I’ve now managed to remove all but one file (Access denied). Specifically SPYBLOCK.DLL version 2.3.0.11 in C:\Program Files\ZoneAlarmSB\bar\1.bin. Can anyone please suggest how this final one can be winkled out?
    As an aside, since shutting down ZA, I could swear my machine boots and runs faster than before – but perhaps this is nobbut wishful thinking!

     
  13. Zonealarm Pro 7.0 Says:
    January 20th, 2009 at 8:40 am

    Zonealarm Pro 7.0…

    An interesting post by a bloger made me……

     

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