Posted on July 15th, 2008 by Steve Cassidy
Trackball RSI
Anyone else suffered from this? At home I have a 30-inch HP TFT and a Kensington optical trackball (large, which is nice – but with a tiny moulding divot in the ball, which is not so nice), and in the last few months i’ve also had a Logitech Marble Mouse on my primary desk away from home (OK, so my working life is a complicated thing. Are you surprised?)
Since using both of these quite intensively, I have developed what I think is trackball-specific RSI – a sharp pain in the muscle group up at the elbow end of the forearm, when I make certain movements which involve grip with the middle (longest) finger.
Watching what I do when trackballing, it looks as if quite a lot of the fine movement with a ‘ball is done with the arm frozen in tension and the index and middle fingers moving very slowly, also in tension – which gets a lot worse when dragging. It could be that I’ll have to go back to the good old mouse to give my arm a break: at least, it’s that or buy that first sign of decrepitude – a shopping trolley…
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July 17th, 2008 at 6:34 am
Dear Steve,
RSI stands for Repetitive Strain Injury. However, I think RSI is not so much caused by the repetitive movements, but by the continous strain of the body parts that support the moving limbs. In your case, this means that not the movement of your finger tips is the problem, but the tension in the fingers, the fore arm and the shoulder. I have had pain in my arm caused by using the mouse. What helped me is to relax the limbs as much as possible. During surfing, for example, I tended to keep my hand on the mouse while reading. Now I release my hand from the mouse when I don’t need to use it. For relaxing your muscles, you should be aware which muscles you strain and when. In my case I got pain in the hand and fingers sometimes, but the cause is at my shoulder. I discovered tension in my right shoulder when I use the mouse for a long time. These tension blocks the free flow of blood, and may be it hinders also the nerves. When I take care of relaxing my shoulder, I don’t get painful hands and fingers any more.
Once you have RSI, it is most important to take care of relaxing the ignited body parts. Because now you should not only prevent tension of long duration, but you must also recover from the ignition you already have. My advice is to prevent the posture and movements which caused your pain as much as possible. So indeed, replace your trackball by the mouse. And use keyboard commands rather then menu clicks. Once your pain is over, you can cautiously start with the trackball again, but then with more awareness about which muscles you use, and with relaxing muscles as soon as you notice that you strain them without need.
In the same time, you can do relaxing sports or movements. Relaxing the hands can be done by holding your arms slightly bend in front of you, with the hands on shoulder heigth, and then turning your hands around the axes of the forearm. For arms and shoulders you can do the following: Stand with your feet at shoulder width. Then turn your waist to the left and to the right etc. Release all muscles in your arms, so that they sway around yor body.
I hope yourpain will be soon over!
Best regards,
Tjamme Wiegers
July 17th, 2008 at 6:58 am
I use a Logitech TrackMan Wireless trackball in preference to a mouse.
The ball is controlled by the thumb [right handed - I don't think they make a left handed version] with the hand cupped over, and fully supported by, the casing. The first finger rests on the Left Click Button or controls the Scroll Wheel which sits between the Left and Right Click Buttons. The middle finger rests on the Right Click Button.
I am currently using my second replacement, due to the device being dropped onto the floor too many times, and I would not consider changing unless forced to do so. My use, over many years, is intensive [graphics] and sessions have run to almost 24 hours.
I always ensure my forearm is fully supported, usually on the arm of a chair or cushioned by other means if sitting on a sofa or laying on a bed.
From your description above it seems that this product, with which I have no connection other than being a long term user, would be an ideal ‘break’ without giving up on using a trackball altogether.
July 17th, 2008 at 9:26 am
Hi Steve,
I actually use both types of trackball, the one you have for the laptop at home and the one Stan Taylor uses for work. I find the thumb controlled one is alot easier to use and I have had no problems or pains with it. However I think you should have your elbow supported at all times.
However I don’t like the one with the trackball in the middle as I find the ball is too big and not the easiest to control, so I keep reverting back to the touchpad.
July 17th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
I spent a while with the big Logitech wireless ball; mine suffered from being dropped too much until the battery compartment gave up the ghost. They seem very difficult to find these days, and that’s why i got the Kensington. I think most of my trouble comes from trackballs in two main workplaces, rather than a mouse in one and a trackball in the other. Fortunately i found a large rectangle of stick-down Carbon Fibre matting at Goodwood’s Festival of Speed: this is going on my glass desk as a replacement for the twee round stick-down mousemat, so that it matches the size of the desktop achieveable with the HP 30 incher. Then I’ll do mouse at home and trackball at work.
July 20th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
My Microsoft Trackball was my main mouse for 4 years until I went with a Logitech MX Air… it’s still gets used with my Laptop but it takes forever to cross the screen (1680×1050) as the resolution isn’t that high at 400 DPI. I don’t know of any trackballs with a higher DPI but that might reduce the number of repetitive movements.
July 21st, 2008 at 8:51 am
RSI seems to be a real Zen thing; I am now suspicious that all of this started after a day rearranging 3 racks of kit, when various discs (of the spinal sort) made themselves known. I suspect a visit for some prodding and stretching with the Austin Powers Chiropracter (because when she lets go you stand up, stretch and yell YEAH BABY) may be in order.
August 24th, 2008 at 2:26 am
Steve,
I’ve had the same experience. I switch my Logitech Marble Mouse (ball-in-the-center kind) between my left and right hands throughout the day, but cannot escape the tension in the muscles on the top of my forearm. I am not yet certain whether this is due to the trackball or the height of my Kinesis keyboard (an outstanding product, by the way, which has completely resolved carpal tunnel symptoms for me). Myofacial massage has helped a great deal to prevent permanent injury and pain in the forearm, but as yet, I have no way to keep the muscle tension from occurring.
May 5th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Repetitive movements cause strain, so switch between trackball and normal mouse, and also use your other hands. Short term use of either approach is harmless, so switching will allow you to work the same amount of hours at the desk with less injuries.
May 9th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I have used a Kensington Expert Mouse (?) trackball for many years – it is the only easily available trackball that is adequate for CAD work, the others’ balls are just not big enough – and find the greatest cause of strain in the arm to be ‘reaching’ to the trackball – try sitting it closer to the desk edge so that your elbow is at a right-angle. I also dispensed with the Kensington wrist pad (too hard and not high enough) and replaced it with a Fellowes gel wrist rest.
Unfortunately, the Expert Mouse will not work with Vista, except as a 3-button + scroll device and Kensington couldn’t care less. I do not know if their new Slimblade version works with Vista 64-bit and I’m not inclined to buy from a company with such a cavalier attitude to support anyway.
Does anyone know of another trackball with similar capabilities to the Expert Mouse – must have scrolling and at least four buttons?
May 11th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Wow. That’s quite a combination! I’m not sure whether the world of CAD and the world of Vista cross over very much – I always remember CAD as being very picky about video card compatibility and CAD users as being very clear and positive that the whole of the rest of the machine follows on from their CAD package, and not the other way around.
The kensington Expert Mouse was what I had been using to give me the RSI initially. I think the problem comes because with a device like that, your hand “hovers” over the surface, because it’s all buttons: this puts strain on the “lift up” tendon and muscles – the “press down” muscles hardly get used at all. I’ve got over my episode of RSI since I wrote the original Blog entry, thanks to some of the suggestions here – but probably the single most useful trick was to rest the right hand with the weight of the hand & arm on the ball of the trackball, while pressing buttons.
I did end up buying the rather crazy 3D “space mouse” – see:
http://www.3dconnexion.com/3dmouse/spacenavigatorfornotebooks.php
and that helps a lot, though I haven’t used it with CAD, being about as good at product design as I am at breakdancing…